(Vanity) Time to call Pres. Bush to write executive order [re: Terri Schiavo]

March 21, 2005

[SeasideSparrow]

How much longer are we going to keep "hoping" a judge does the right thing in a timely manner?

Are we waiting through the night? Or we waiting through tomorrow? Are we waiting, waiting, waiting while Terri dehydrates to death?

The time has come to call, email and fax encouragement to President Bush to write an executive order protecting Terri immediately and getting her into a hospital. In a hospice they cannot adequately take care of her. The judge can take his time making decisions without it being on Terri's watch.

BEGIN the CALLS!! Jam the switchboards!! Pass this to everyone you know.

[NorCalRepub]

we have CCW in Calif and only one judge said gay marriage would be OK.....The Supremes spanked Mayor Newsome for screwing around with it..Right now, marriage is still between a man and a woman. That is state law until such time it is changed...by the way......you are getting defensive with the wrong person.......look at the post I was responding too...they are the ones that said the whole Florida system was messed up.....not me, I was conveying that if "they" thought that, then we had bigger problems than Terri Schiavo......

[TigersEye]

Well I wasn't getting defensive with you just trying to needle you a little. I'm glad thinks are fine and dandy in CA now. As for FL the whole things broke and rots from top to bottom.

[TigersEye]

And I hope things are fine as well as thinks. (preview, preview, preview)

[NorCalRepub]

haha.....okie dokie......I got the jist of it......

[Golden Gate]

Terri Ping for this thread!

[Calpernia]

Seaside, that is a little much here.

An Executive Order?

No, I won't go there.

[Calpernia]

Bush and Congress stepped in Sunday night because of he broken judicial system.

They cannot go further.

To be honest, Terri might not make it.

But rest assured, Greer and Co. are specimens on slides under microscopes.

[Golden Gate]

SeasideSparrow - I like the idea. You posted the info on the Terri daily thread, but not on this thread.

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By SeasideSparrow:   The president can write an executive order to get Terri into a hospital immediately. It is not breaking any law to do so. The judge can still take time to ruminate over this case. This action would not interfere with the judge. And since Greer already flaunted a Congressional subpoena his ruling is highly questionable.

Executive orders are lawful. They've been written by presidents ever since Washington on a number of different issues.

Contacting the president and ask him to write an executive order immediately. If you cannot reach him, then contact your state senators and representatives.

Phone Numbers

Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461

Comments: 202-456-6213

E-Mail
President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov

info by SeasideSparrow, on the Terri Daily thread

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Bush and Congress stepped in Sunday night because of he broken judicial system. They cannot go further.

To absolutely no effect, just like when the same thing was done by the Florida legislature and governor, even less. I agree that Congress has done what it can. But if there is nothing more the executives can do, then truly we do not need anyone but the Judicial Oligarchs to mandate taxes and budgets (as the New York courts have done for schools), wage the War on Terror (as it has done by unprecedentedly regulating prisoner of war issues) and dictate all our social norms for us. And that is but a few things the courts have done in taking over control of the other two branches of government.

I invite everyone to read Hamilton's Federalist #78. It says in part:

"Whoever attentively considers the different departments of power must perceive, that, in a government in which they are separated from each other, the judiciary, from the nature of its functions, will always be the least dangerous to the political rights of the Constitution; because it will be least in a capacity to annoy or injure them. The Executive not only dispenses the honors, but holds the sword of the community. The legislature not only commands the purse, but prescribes the rules by which the duties and rights of every citizen are to be regulated. The judiciary, on the contrary, has no influence over either the sword or the purse; no direction either of the strength or of the wealth of the society; and can take no active resolution whatever. It may truly be said to have neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments."

Clearly the implication is that part of the Executive's contemplated restraint on the "least dangerous" branch, the judiciary, is the threat not to enforce its judgments, which Andrew Jackson did in 1831. But when a habit of complete subservience and obsequiousness of all the other arms of government is cultivated over decades, even a body with no power exercises essentially absolute authority. That needs to end NOW.

[TigersEye]

"I'm not sure we can get it done here in Florida," Martinez quoted (Gov.) Bush as saying just after a new Schiavo measure stalled in the Florida Legislature. "Do whatever you can federally."

This is the Governor of Florida calling for help. Any notion that the Feds have no Constitutional business there is malarky.

[FR_addict]

A Governor can pardon criminals, can't this Governor issue a stay for Terri!

Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that a slow and cruel murder would be committed in front of everyone.

Our Constitution, guaranteeing our right to life, is being trampled upon, while we sit back and watch.

This is not a personal family matter. Terri is not property! She is alive!

Wake up people. Who do they come after next.

[Golden Gate]

#51 = This is not a personal family matter. Terri is not property! She is alive!

Email sent to President Bush.

[Postman]

I do not understand why, since she was subpoenaed and is a federal witness, she is not at this moment in the protective custody of federal marshals with her feeding tube reinserted. I do not understand why Judge Greer is not under arrest and in federal custody for ignoring the subpoena and ordering action that will cause the imminent death of a federal witness.

Frankly, the war against judicial tyranny and its usurpation of our government has to start soon. Let it start with this issue. Let the decisive shot be fired by our elected representatives and let the cause be that of Terri Schiavo.

[Calpernia]

Ok, both your posts are interesting.

If Pres. Bush used an Executive Order to bring an iron fist done on the FL corrupt Greer and Co., I wouldn't feel as bothered.

But if Pres. Bush used an Executive Order to just swoop in and save Terri, I would be bothered.

No, don't misread, of course Terri's life is of value. But let's not have a narrow perception. A lot of people need saving and Pres. Bush can't just write an Executive Order for one and no one else. He is Pres. of the country; not individuals.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Then what you are not comprehending from my posts is that if Bush did "swoop in" and save Terri, the whole sense of invulnerability under which all judges from Greer to SCOTUS operate would be shaken to its foundation. Courts would have to reconsider all their decisions in light of what a majority of the House and 1/3 of the Senate would sustain in an impeachment attempt. The small act of saving Terri would essentially "capture" or constrain the entire judiciary on matters like the WoT, social issues etc. The courts would even have to consider what effect this example would have on governors and state legislatures.

When you read between the lines of Hamilton's Federalist #78 (post #49), this is how the checks and balances were supposed to work. http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/federal/fed78.htm

[Calpernia]

I did understand that. And I think I'm agreeing with you under a different angle.

I think if Bush did swoop in, the target should be Greer and Co. and not the full focus on Terri.

Terri isn't the only victim and to just save her would be unfair to those who never got the media attention.

But, if he swooped in on Greer and Co., it would leave alot available for discovery with the fraud and conspiracy with the connections betwen the Hospice, Hemlock Society and the monies owed to FL.

[SeasideSparrow]

If the president exercised his constitutional right to write an executive order, he would be counter-balancing an out-of-control judiciary in this case.

Not only is it the constitutional thing to do - it is the right thing to do.

[Calpernia]

I didn't say he shouldn't. I said if he did the focus should be Greer and Co. Not specifically Terri.

[Dante3]

The President can save Terri, so can many others. They just don't care enough. It is demented to sit by and watch an innocent person be starved to death. Since when can judges order such a thing? And remember, Greer even declared she would be cremated, and no autopsy.

[Golden Gate]

Time to send federal marshalls to protect Terri!

Time to call Pres. Bush to write executive order [re: Terri S. in Florida]

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