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1 posted on 02/28/2005 8:16:56 AM PST by areafiftyone
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If you think this post should be deleted. Please by all means do it. I was a bit leery of posting this because of the language. Thank you.


2 posted on 02/28/2005 8:17:45 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: areafiftyone

Well, the man is RIGHT!


4 posted on 02/28/2005 8:18:58 AM PST by Brian328i
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To: areafiftyone

Well good for him!


5 posted on 02/28/2005 8:18:59 AM PST by tiamat (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.)
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To: areafiftyone
Language could be changed but he basically gets to point about Whorywood...
8 posted on 02/28/2005 8:20:15 AM PST by Dallas59 (Bush said the "F" word 27 times January 20th, 2005!)
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To: areafiftyone

When he's right... he's right.


9 posted on 02/28/2005 8:20:34 AM PST by nuffsenuff
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To: areafiftyone

Interesting, tho. What really gets me is the nerve of these people to use their guaranteed-public-exposure to lecture on a subject not their business.

If the Oscars nite was as bad as indicated (I don't watch them anyway, they get enough attention), that's a perfect example.

These mere entertainers should have the DECENCY to shut their mouths in such public forums about things that are not their business. That's what it's about. They don't have the business, and we Joe Schmoes don't have the public pulpit like they do. It's unseemly for these egocentric assholes to use their forum for something not their business. We Joe Schmoes don't get to have our thoughts aired for all to see.


11 posted on 02/28/2005 8:22:28 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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Edit the "sh!t" words and it should be ok. Right, Admin?

Kid Rock - Right on!

12 posted on 02/28/2005 8:22:40 AM PST by Ladysmith (Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: areafiftyone
FROM YOUR SAME SOURCE: In an earlier song in 1990, when the President's father GEORGE was in charge of the country alongside the elder BARBARA as First Lady, Kid Rock sang, "Pimp of the Nation, I could be it/ As a matter of fact, I forsee it/ But only pimpin 'hos with the big tush/ While you be left pimpin' Barbara Bush."

it is funny how freepers will defend Kid Rock cause he dislikes liberals. It makes him no less an idiot unworthy of admiration.

14 posted on 02/28/2005 8:23:38 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: areafiftyone

Eloquently stated Mr. Rock. I heartily agree.


16 posted on 02/28/2005 8:26:00 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Grateful Heart Tour 2005)
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To: areafiftyone

I think Alice Cooper said much of the same a few months ago, minus the potty mouth. Kid Rock's music and filthy mouth may belong in the toilet but he is right about this and his sincerity is refreshing, in a vulgar sort of way.


17 posted on 02/28/2005 8:27:07 AM PST by Kokojmudd (Today's Liberal is Tomorrow's Prospective Flying Saucer Abductee)
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To: areafiftyone

I acopuldnt have said it better myself. I think he expresses the way most of us feel. He was wrong about Natalie Maines though, she is married to an Arab , so that makes her an expert. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.

Are the Dixie Chicks back to waiting on tables yet?


18 posted on 02/28/2005 8:27:25 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: areafiftyone

This is pretty mild by comparison to my thoughts on this subject.


29 posted on 02/28/2005 8:33:39 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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To: areafiftyone

Gotta love Kid Rock!


30 posted on 02/28/2005 8:33:53 AM PST by Texas Federalist
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No one messes with politics around Ted Nugent either!


31 posted on 02/28/2005 8:34:43 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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34 posted on 02/28/2005 8:35:29 AM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: areafiftyone
Everything he says is true. His delivery may not be the best, but then, as he says, he is what he is and that "ain't" very well-educated. He probably is straining his vocabulary as it is.
37 posted on 02/28/2005 8:36:57 AM PST by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: areafiftyone

From a FR post 2 years ago :

Who is Smarter?

by: Cindy Osborne



The Hollywood group is at it again. Holding anti-war rallies, screaming about the Bush Administration, running ads in major newspapers, defaming the President and his Cabinet every chance they get, to anyone and everyone who will listen. They publicly defile them and call them names like "stupid" , "morons", and "idiots". Jessica Lange went so far as to tell a crowd in Spain that she hates President Bush and is embarrassed to be an American.



So, just how ignorant are these people who are running the country? Let's look at the biographies of these "stupid", "ignorant" , "moronic" leaders, and then at the celebrities who are castigating them:


President George W. Bush: Received a Bachelors Degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard Business School. He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard. He began his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975 and worked in the energy industry until 1986. He was elected Governor on November 8, 1994, with 53.5 percent of the vote. In a historic re-election victory, he became the first Texas Governor to be elected to consecutive four-year terms on November 3, 1998 winning 68.6 percent of the vote. In 1998 Governor Bush won 49 percent of the Hispanic vote, 27 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of Democrats and 65 percent of women. He won more Texas counties, 240 of 254, than any modern Republican other that Richard Nixon in 1972 and is the first Republican gubernatorial candidate to win the heavily Hispanic and Democratic border counties of El Paso, Cameron and Hidalgo. (Someone began circulating a false story about his I.Q. being lower than any other President. If you believed it, you might want to go to URBANLEGENDS.COM and see the truth.)



Vice President Dick Cheney: Earned a B.A. in 1965 and a M.A. in 1966, both in political science. Two years later, he won an American Political Science Association congressional fellowship. One of Vice President Cheney's primary duties is to share with individuals, members of Congress and foreign leaders, President Bush's vision to strengthen our economy, secure our homeland and win the War on Terrorism. In his official role as President of the Senate, Vice President Cheney regularly goes to Capital Hill to meet with Senators and members of the House of Representatives to work on the Administration's legislative goals. In his travels as Vice President, he has seen first hand the great demands the war on terrorism is placing on the men and women of our military, and he is proud of the tremendous job they are doing for the United States of America.



Secretary of State Colin Powell: Was educated in the New York City public schools, graduating from the City College of New York (CCNY), where he earned a Bachelor's Degree in geology. He also participated in ROTC at CCNY and received a commission as an Army second lieutenant upon graduation in June 1958. His further academic achievements include a Master of Business Administration Degree from George Washington University. Secretary Powell is the recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards and decorations. Secretary Powell's civilian awards include two Presidential Medals of Freedom, the President's Citizens Medal, the Congressional Gold Medal, the Secretary of State Distinguished Service Medal, and the Secretary of Energy Distinguished Service Medal. Several schools and other institutions have been named in his honor and he holds honorary degrees from universities and colleges across the country.



Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld: Attended Princeton University on Scholarship (AB, 1954) and served in the U.S. Navy (1954-57) as a Naval aviator ; Congressional Assistant to Rep. Robert Griffin (R-MI), 1957-59; U.S. Representative, Illinois, 1962-69; Assistant to the President, Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity, Director of the Cost of Living Council, 1969-74; U.S. Ambassador to NATO, 1973-74; head of Presidential Transition Team, 1974; Assistant to the President, Director of White House Office of Operations, White House Chief of Staff, 1974-77; Secretary of Defense, 1975-77



Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge: Was raised in a working class family in veterans' public housing in Erie. He earned a scholarship to Harvard, graduating with honors in 1967. After his first year at The Dickinson School of Law, he was drafted into the U.S. Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant in Vietnam, earning the Bronze Star for Valor. After returning to Pennsylvania, he earned his Law Degree and was in private practice before becoming Assistant District Attorney in Erie County. He was elected to Congress in 1982. He was the first enlisted Vietnam combat veteran elected to the U.S. House, and was overwhelmingly re-elected six times.



National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice: Earned her Bachelor's Degree in Political Science, Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. (Note: Rice enrolled at the University of Denver at the age of 15, graduating at 19 with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science (Cum Laude). She earned a Master's Degree at the University of Notre Dame and a Doctorate from the University of Denver's Graduate School of International Studies. Both of her advanced degrees are also in Political Science.) She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. At Stanford, she has been a member of the Center for International Security and Arms Control, a Senior Fellow of the Institute for International Studies, and a Fellow (by courtesy) of the Hoover Institution. Her books include Germany Unified and Europe Transformed (1995) with Philip Zelikow, The Gorbachev Era (1986) with Alexander Dallin, and Uncertain Allegiance: The Soviet Union and the Czechoslovak Army (1984). She also has written numerous articles on Soviet and East European foreign and defense policy, and has addressed audiences in settings ranging from the U.S. Ambassador's Residence in Moscow to the Commonwealth Club to the 1992 and 2000 Republican National Conventions. From 1989 through March 1991, the period of German reunification and the final days of the Soviet Union, she served in the Bush Administration as Director, and then Senior Director, of Soviet and East European Affairs in the National Security Council, and a Special Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs. In 1986, while an international affairs fellow of the Council on Foreign Relations, she served as Special Assistant to the Director of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. In 1997, she served on the Federal Advisory Committee on Gender -- Integrated Training in the Military. She was a member of the boards of directors for the Chevron Corporation, the Charles Schwab Corporation, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, the University of Notre Dame, the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco. Born November 14, 1954 in Birmingham, Alabama, she earned her bachelor's degree in political science, cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa, from the University of Denver in 1974; her Master's from the University of Notre Dame in 1975; and her Ph.D. from the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver in 1981. She is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and has been awarded Honorary Doctorates from Morehouse College in 1991, the University of Alabama in 1994, and the University of Notre Dame in 1995. She resides in Washington, D.C.



So who are these celebrities? What is their education? What is their experience in affairs of State or in National Security? While I will defend to the death their right to express their opinions, I think that if they are going to call into question the intelligence of our leaders, we should also have all the facts on their educations and background:



Barbra Streisand : Completed high school
Career: Singing and acting



Cher: Dropped out of school in 9th grade.
Career: Singing and acting



Martin Sheen Flunked exam to enter University of Dayton.
Career: Acting



Jessica Lange Dropped out college mid-freshman year.
Career: Acting



Alec Baldwin Dropped out of George Washington U. after scandal
Career: Acting



Julia Roberts Completed high school
Career: Acting



Sean Penn Completed High school
Career: Acting



Susan Sarandon Degree in Drama from Catholic University of America in Washington, D.C.
Career: Acting



Ed Asner Completed High school
Career: Acting

George Clooney Dropped out of University of Kentucky
Career: Acting



Michael Moore Dropped out first year University of Michigan.
Career: Movie Director



Sarah Jessica Parker: Completed High School
Career: Acting



Jennifer Anniston: Completed High School
Career: Acting



Mike Farrell Completed High school
Career: Acting



Janeane Garofelo Dropped out of College.
Career: Stand up comedienne



Larry Hagman Attended Bard College for one year.
Career: Acting



While comparing the education and experience of these two groups, we should also remember that President Bush and his cabinet are briefed daily, even hourly, on the War on Terror and threats to our security. They are privy to information gathered around the world concerning the Middle East, the threats to America, the intentions of terrorists and terrorist-supporting governments. They are in constant communication with the CIA, the FBI, Interpol, NATO, The United Nations, our own military, and that of our allies around the world. We cannot simply believe that we have full knowledge of the threats because we watch CNN!! We cannot believe that we are in any way as informed as our leaders.



These celebrities have no intelligence-gathering agents, no fact-finding groups, no insight into the minds of those who would destroy our country. They only have a deep seated hatred for all things Republican. By nature, and no one knows quite why, the Hollywood elitists detest Conservative views and anything that supports or uplifts the United States of America. The silence was deafening from the Left when Bill Clinton bombed a pharmaceutical factory outside of Khartoum, or when he attacked the Bosnian Serbs in 1995 and 1999. He bombed Serbia itself to get Slobodan Milosevic out of Kosovo, and not a single peace rally was held. When our Rangers were ambushed in Somalia and 18 young American lives were lost, not a peep was heard from Hollywood. Yet now, after our nation has been attacked on its own soil, after 3,000 Americans were killed by freedom-hating terrorists while going about their routine lives, they want to hold rallies against the war. Why the change? Because an honest, God-fearing Republican sits in the White House.



Another irony is that in 1987, when Ronald Reagan was in office, the Hollywood group aligned themselves with disarmament groups like SANE, FREEZE and PEACE ACTION, urging our own government to disarm and freeze the manufacturing of any further nuclear weapons, in order to promote world peace. It is curious that now, even after we have heard all the evidence that Saddam Hussein has chemical, biological and is very close to obtaining nuclear weapons, their is no cry from this group for HIM to disarm. They believe we should leave him alone in his quest for these weapons of mass destruction, even though it is certain that these deadly weapons will eventually be used against us in our own cities.



So why the hype out of Hollywood? Could these celebrities believe that since they draw such astronomical salaries, they are entitled to also determine the course of our Nation? That they can make viable decisions concerning war and peace? Did Michael Moore have the backing of the Nation when he recently thanked France, on our behalf, for being a "good enough friend to tell us we were wrong"? I know for certain he was not speaking for me. Does Sean Penn fancy himself a Diplomat, in going to Iraq when we are just weeks away from war? Does he believe that his High School Diploma gives him the knowledge (and the right) to go to a country that is controlled by a maniacal dictator, and speak on behalf of the American people? Or is it the fact that he pulls in more money per year than the average American worker will see in a lifetime? Does his bank account give him clout?



The ultimate irony is that many of these celebrities have made a shambles of their own lives, with drug abuse, alcoholism, numerous marriages and divorces, scrapes with the law, publicized temper tantrums, etc. How dare they pretend to know what is best for an entire nation! What is even more bizarre is how many people in this country will listen and accept their views, simply because they liked them in a certain movie, or have fond memories of an old television sitcom!



It is time for us, as citizens of the United States, to educate ourselves about the world around us. If future generations are going to enjoy the freedoms that our forefathers bequeathed us, if they are ever to know peace in their own country and their world, to live without fear of terrorism striking in their own cities, we must assure that this nation remains strong. We must make certain that those who would destroy us are made aware of the severe consequences that will befall them.



Yes, it is a wonderful dream to sit down with dictators and terrorists and join hands, singing Cumbaya and talking of world peace. But it is not real. We did not stop Adolf Hitler from taking over the entire continent of Europe by simply talking to him. We sent our best and brightest, with the strength and determination that this Country is known for, and defeated the Nazi regime. President John F. Kennedy did not stop the Soviet ships from unloading their nuclear missiles in Cuba in 1962 with mere words. He stopped them with action, and threat of immediate war if the ships did not turn around. We did not end the Cold War with conferences. It ended with the strong belief of President Ronald Reagan...



PEACE through STRENGTH.


39 posted on 02/28/2005 8:38:32 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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Don't be shocked at the language. Kid isn't a conservative; he's not going to act like one. "Bush Democrat" is probably a fairer description. And the thought of there being such a thing as a "Bush Democrat" ought to scare the &%*$^#@ out of the Dems!
40 posted on 02/28/2005 8:39:21 AM PST by Redcloak (More cleverly arranged 1's and 0's)
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I have two post graduate degrees and he stated his point about Hollywood much more eloquently then I ever could.

Broadly speaking, the G.O.P has two major branches. The socially conservative (derisively called the "Bible thumpers" by those on the left) and the social libertarians who are also fiscal and national defense hawks like myself. (I believe the term is "South Park Republicans")

I admire Kid Rock for saying someone should cut Hussein's head off and he get major props from me for nailing Pamela Anderson. 1/2 of FR would flame me and the other 1/2 would agree.

46 posted on 02/28/2005 8:42:27 AM PST by MattinNJ (Stop voter fraud-enact voter ID cards with photos w/ magnetic stripes that prevent multiple voting)
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I don't care who is for whom or what they believe or don't believe. That is the American way. However, I think it can be stated without the filty mouth language. on EITHER side. That language is NOT necessary and is quite crude.

By the way what are the dixie chicks doing now? Boy, Natalie sure opened up a can of worms didn't she? She really blew the lid off all of it and didn't realize that while she had the right to say what she said the American public heard and had the right to NOT buy her records and had the right to NOT like what she said and lastly, had the right to SPEAK OUT about what they heard.

Strange the dem/lib/lefties are always for free speech UNLESS it is practiced by the pubbies/conservs on the right then they call it something else. Strange little group of people them. :)


50 posted on 02/28/2005 8:47:02 AM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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