Posted on 02/19/2005 11:58:48 AM PST by chaco canyon
Religuous people are good people that are being led astray. They are systematically being manipulated to remove the power that they have to use their potent brains. It is easy to believe someone who says he has an alluring answer, an answer that cannot be logically disputed. The fundamental mechanics of religion are the same as a virus. It attacks those that are mentally weakened, and when they are young and suscepable to the concept of magic.
Understanding of the beautiful complexity of the world is opening up to individuals that grasp the complex concepts. The universe seems to be alive and intelligent to those that do not have a closed mind. Religious dogma's do not approach this level of understanding. We live in a remarkable time, where so much is being learned so quickly, we do not yet have time to take it all in, to synthesize this. The vast majority of human problems are caused by human thinking. The religous order hamper human exploration, becuase they believe that they have answers. The intelligent universe seems to be telling us to live sustainably and to grow mentally to become more like what we seek. This is counter to most religous organizations.
WE must recognize that ancient knowledge is incomplete and often incorrect. The world is dynamic and these variations must be taken to account to adapt our moral code to survive and grow. We cannot afford to revel in ignorance forever. The limits of ancient knowledge are met at Armaggedon.
Evil MEN praise God to gain power. Hitler was a friend of the Pope and a good catholic. He called on God often for help. Terrorism is viable in a religous context, because people believe in what will happen when they die. Religion has always been used to manipulate the masses, the dark ages can return and get even DARKER.
Faith eventually destroys good will between men, because faith give all men the idea that they have their private truth. But there is only one truth in the world. When there are differences between religions, they should be resolved. People working together to find THE truth, not advocating their private truth. Fighting over differences means that the understanding of truth is limited. Fighting will not find truth. Only an open mind can find truth. The most savage places on earth are the most religous. Puritanism kills. We are not becoming a kinder nation.
There is a Mathematical principle call Godels theorem. It says that all systems, no matter how perfect are incomplete. These create paradoxes (religious differences). Paradoxes, are not something to fight over. They are GATEWAYS to a greater system, to a more complete truth. I call this the Mathematics of Peace. There are many advances that we are not utilizing for the social good. We are rehashing ancient failures, each time they are becoming more deadly and heinous as we become more powerful. The religous system creates good and evil and conflict. Signicantly different paradigms are available to people willing to think. Good and evil, heaven and hell are primitive that are keeping us in a prison. We are reaching the time when there are too many people in the world to survive with this type of thinking. Free your mind. Do kind compassionate things without the need for a reward for heaven. Try to understand the how the universe works, and work in sync with it. It is understandable and useful for peace and growth.

I checked his posting history. There is a very clear pattern here. Have a look and you will see the confrontational and smug nature of his posting.
Now think logically. If you don't believe anything Hitler said, and you believe Hitler said he was a Christian, then you don't believe that Hitler was a Christian.
He's a troll; check his posting history.
What is your objection to apostrophes? Is it a pseudo-intellectual thing, like your entire thesis that thinking people reject God? Whatever. Think about this, and display your own openmindedness: The Bible is truth.
Are you trying to make his head explode?
If you look at his past postings it becomes clear that he's one of those people who has done everything, been everywhere, heard everything, designed everything, kmows everyone and is all things to all people.
A lot of I have I was I dids etc etc etc.
Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . .don't be shy.
What a narrow view you have.
I'm a pure materialist myself---an athiest's athiest, if you will. And I've never, ever been made to feel unwelcome here because of my (lack of) religious beliefs.
Conservatism has a place for everyone, religious or not.
tell it to the muzzims
You sound like a resonable fellow. I am not saying anything about peoples spiritual experience. If you have a feeling, an awakening, an experience with GOD. I have no right to even comment on its beauty, and validity and depth. I think that it is a good thing. This is not what I am speaking of at all. I am only speaking about religion as a social process. Religion seems to be hampering humanity extensively. It seems to work against us living sustainably. And I beleive I only know a small glimplse of the knowledge needed to understant the world. I am terribly incomplete. But what I do know, the science and mathematics, and rationailty, run contrary to many religious beliefs. I I think that this is so, becuase the world is dynamic, the world has changed, and beliefs that were solid at one time, are becoming out dated.
Jesus loves you.
Same here.
LIAR!
Just have a look at his posting history. Basically, we are all a bunch of twits, according to him.
He promoted a brand of Lutheranizm that rejected the works of the "Jew Rabbi Paul" and only accepted the parts of the Gospel that promoted the idea of a supreme national greater germany. Hitler himself, to my knowledge, didn't really have much interest in religion except to the extent of making sure it did not oppose him.
Ahhh. My apologies.
According to archival records, he sought much more. His own personal beliefs were along occult and Norse paganism. He subscribed to a newsletter that promoted Norse paganism and he avidly read books related to the subject. He wanted to wean Germany from Judeo-Christian beliefs and slowly turn Germans into new-age Vikings.
De nanda.
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