Posted on 02/19/2005 11:58:48 AM PST by chaco canyon
Religuous people are good people that are being led astray. They are systematically being manipulated to remove the power that they have to use their potent brains. It is easy to believe someone who says he has an alluring answer, an answer that cannot be logically disputed. The fundamental mechanics of religion are the same as a virus. It attacks those that are mentally weakened, and when they are young and suscepable to the concept of magic.
Understanding of the beautiful complexity of the world is opening up to individuals that grasp the complex concepts. The universe seems to be alive and intelligent to those that do not have a closed mind. Religious dogma's do not approach this level of understanding. We live in a remarkable time, where so much is being learned so quickly, we do not yet have time to take it all in, to synthesize this. The vast majority of human problems are caused by human thinking. The religous order hamper human exploration, becuase they believe that they have answers. The intelligent universe seems to be telling us to live sustainably and to grow mentally to become more like what we seek. This is counter to most religous organizations.
WE must recognize that ancient knowledge is incomplete and often incorrect. The world is dynamic and these variations must be taken to account to adapt our moral code to survive and grow. We cannot afford to revel in ignorance forever. The limits of ancient knowledge are met at Armaggedon.
Evil MEN praise God to gain power. Hitler was a friend of the Pope and a good catholic. He called on God often for help. Terrorism is viable in a religous context, because people believe in what will happen when they die. Religion has always been used to manipulate the masses, the dark ages can return and get even DARKER.
Faith eventually destroys good will between men, because faith give all men the idea that they have their private truth. But there is only one truth in the world. When there are differences between religions, they should be resolved. People working together to find THE truth, not advocating their private truth. Fighting over differences means that the understanding of truth is limited. Fighting will not find truth. Only an open mind can find truth. The most savage places on earth are the most religous. Puritanism kills. We are not becoming a kinder nation.
There is a Mathematical principle call Godels theorem. It says that all systems, no matter how perfect are incomplete. These create paradoxes (religious differences). Paradoxes, are not something to fight over. They are GATEWAYS to a greater system, to a more complete truth. I call this the Mathematics of Peace. There are many advances that we are not utilizing for the social good. We are rehashing ancient failures, each time they are becoming more deadly and heinous as we become more powerful. The religous system creates good and evil and conflict. Signicantly different paradigms are available to people willing to think. Good and evil, heaven and hell are primitive that are keeping us in a prison. We are reaching the time when there are too many people in the world to survive with this type of thinking. Free your mind. Do kind compassionate things without the need for a reward for heaven. Try to understand the how the universe works, and work in sync with it. It is understandable and useful for peace and growth.
This post is an example of the blatant and extreme ignorance of this place. You know nothing of the the mathematics and science used as reference, but you are willing to say that I am an idiot. My point is that this is the nature of conflict. I am not a liberal or conservative. I think that this is an example. OPINIONS are primitve. Knowledge is necessary.
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This is not anti God, this is pro-knowledge. I put this forward to make people think. There are greater understandings available. If this site is pro-GOD, why are they afraid to look at new ideas, wouldnt GOD be found in the new ideas also ?
Sorry DUDE!
Evil men use religion/weapons/fear/hatred ......whatever it takes to manipulate people.
Grow up.
WRONG! Godel's Incompleteness Theorem states than any consistent mathematical will contain meaningful propositions who truth or falsity cannot be determined by that system. It has as much to do with religion as relativistic physics has to do with moral relativity; i.e., nothing.
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Nazi's also used liberty and our founding dads to further their influence in America. What does that say about our founding fathers? It says the same thing it says about religion in your scenario, absolutely nothing.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy...
Not that I am down on science. I like it. It describes God's hand on the cosmos...
Jeez, what Christian whizzed in your Wheaties?
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I just posted this on my home page, credited to you.
There are many folks in the sciences (applied and theoretical) who subscribe to religious belief. Religion and knowledge are not mutually exclusive.
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Do you often see things that aren't there?
IT only has nothing to do with religion becuase you havent thought about it. Your description of Godels theorem and mine sound about the same. I thinks its important for to say that I am wrong. And that is fine.
This is not just truth, alot of people agree with what I say. Generally I have found that religous folks dont like to hear what others have to say. So I have to come to your website. Generally it feels like the religous right would rather take the creative and the academics out and just shoot them. If I dont beleive like you, I dont belong in America. Thank you.
The dark ages? You went to public school didn't you?
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