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Dimensional Door - Freeople Thread 21
Today | Me

Posted on 01/19/2005 9:51:40 AM PST by Mo1



TOPICS: Dimensional Doorway; Freeoples
KEYWORDS: boomers; genxers; itsdarksfault; okers; yersetc
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To: Servant of the 9
Why are people so afraid to die?

Some are, some aren't. Sunday a week ago was the 10th anniversary of the day when my heart stopped beating. After his second attempt at defibrillation, the ER doctor was warned by a nurse that I had a living will/power of attorney for health care that expressed my wish not to be the subject of extraordinary resuscitation efforts. He ignored her, shouted "Clear," and hit me one more time with the paddles. Nully's subsequent economic enslavement in the chains of my Social Security entitlement notwithstanding, the rest is history.

As I wish the courts had done with Terri, someone--the doctor in my case--applied judgment and ethics to the law and saved my life. Someone should have saved hers.

7,281 posted on 03/28/2005 9:58:47 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: Servant of the 9

Sweetie pie, if that is what you specify to a power-of-attorney, then that is what you will have...trust me.

Now, let us hope that your son does not take out a lot of innocent health care workers because you did not die fast enough, as you threatened to do.


7,282 posted on 03/28/2005 9:59:35 AM PST by Conservababe
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To: catpuppy
As I wish the courts had done with Terri, someone--the doctor in my case--applied judgment and ethics to the law and saved my life. Someone should have saved hers.

I don't object to defib, or an IV, but when you get to feeding tubes and respirators, anything that is gonna last more than a day, it is time for a friend to be able to finish me off.

But that is illegal.

SO9

7,283 posted on 03/28/2005 10:02:45 AM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: sweetliberty
I was starting to think that some of them beach bunnies made off with you

Oh they tried but I couldn't catch them they couldn't catch me.

7,284 posted on 03/28/2005 10:03:02 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: catpuppy
I'm just curious if you saw the light at the end of a tunnel during your resuscitation?
7,285 posted on 03/28/2005 10:04:45 AM PST by Conservababe
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To: Canadian Outrage; null and void; sweetliberty; Borax Queen; grannie9; Darksheare

You know if Michael Schiavo had been a right winger his Girl friend name would have been know and all the garbage in her back ground!


7,286 posted on 03/28/2005 10:07:04 AM PST by restornu ("Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time." So, they're disposable-ETHIC)
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To: Servant of the 9
Easy Euthanasia Tip of the Day:

1. Schedule your funeral for the day after deer season opens (stop all magazine subscriptions but ignore any unpaid bills)
2. Determine best deer hunting area closest to your home
3. Dress (or have someone dress you) in camouflage hunting garb
4. Go (or have someone take you) there before dawn on the morning that deer season begins (you will not need a weapon or a hunting license)
5. Run/Walk/Crawl (it makes no difference) into the woods

7,287 posted on 03/28/2005 10:16:57 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: Conservababe
you saw the light at the end of a tunnel during your resuscitation?

Yes. Along with a wonderful feeling of peace. This was followed by the sensation of acceleration within the tunnel. Lights flashed by faster and faster until I came to a violent stop at the backside of my eyes from which I could see that I was back in the ER.

7,288 posted on 03/28/2005 10:25:06 AM PST by catpuppy
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To: Canadian Outrage
This schiavo lawyer Felos is showing more of his sickness towards women

He the blue whale guy said he never seem Terri look more beautiful and at peace......as she lays there with sunken eyes, cracked lips and kiddney break down!

For the Love of Euthanaias.......George Felos!


CLICK

7,289 posted on 03/28/2005 10:40:03 AM PST by restornu ("Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time." So, they're disposable-ETHIC)
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To: Woliff
Thanks for the interesting take the Life of Jesus Christ!

Yet it says Christ is the Word of God—He created all things and was made flesh—John baptizes Jesus and testifies he is the Lamb of God

1 IN the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

15 ¶ John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.

17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Jesus was before the world was forum, and was Jahovah in the OT before he came in the flesh in the NT!

Thank you I like these things for between the world of secular/pagan Constantine and other writting it testifies of the struggle to preserve the WORD.

This kind of discussion is frown upon DD for it is a place to defussed from the world debates.....if you want to continue topic they encourage it be taken elsewhere!

7,290 posted on 03/28/2005 11:09:15 AM PST by restornu ("Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time." So, they're disposable-ETHIC)
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To: sweetliberty

I heard that!:)


7,291 posted on 03/28/2005 11:30:42 AM PST by restornu ("Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time." So, they're disposable-ETHIC)
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To: Servant of the 9
Why are people so afraid to die? SO9

Good questioin SO9

I since some when the good times are over they no long care "let me out of here!" is there motto...

For me it is taking me a long time to learn my earth lessons and do the things I covenant to do!

Matt.25
21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.

7,292 posted on 03/28/2005 11:41:49 AM PST by restornu ("Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time." So, they're disposable-ETHIC)
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To: restornu

The references were more to the common threads in all religions which predated Christianity, such as the worship of Attis, Dionysus, Krishna, Mithras, Osiris and others.

Sorry, it was not meant to be religious just informative. I wonder which calendar they used to figure out December 25th


7,293 posted on 03/28/2005 11:59:35 AM PST by Woliff
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To: catpuppy

Wow that was close......thank God your doctor was not indoctrinated by the "Ehtic Centers" which have pop up in all of the university across the world!

Center for the Study of Ethics
http://www.uvsc.edu/ethics/other.html

Ethics, Medical
http://bioethicsweb.ac.uk/browse/mesh/D004992.html

Ethics and the Culture of Violence and Death
http://www.wheaton.edu/FandL/pdf/Fletcher.PDF

*****

Those living wells are tricky because you don't know the future...it is like Russian Roulette!


7,294 posted on 03/28/2005 12:06:20 PM PST by restornu ("Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time." So, they're disposable-ETHIC)
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To: catpuppy
I was starting to think that some of them beach bunnies made off with you

The true reason for the de-fribrillator.........

Heh heh heh.

Hi Pup, how's by you these days?

7,295 posted on 03/28/2005 12:18:22 PM PST by Lakeshark (Whatever...................................................................:-)
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To: ValerieUSA
Just been busy.

No life saving measures needed.........

Hope Austin is treating you well.

7,296 posted on 03/28/2005 12:23:05 PM PST by Lakeshark (Whatever...................................................................:-)
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To: Woliff
I appreciate your imformation Woliff......it the Passion that follows!:) LOL

It is ok to talk about the Passion of Gonades just not the other side of it

7,297 posted on 03/28/2005 12:33:50 PM PST by restornu ("Newborn human babies have no sense of their own existence over time." So, they're disposable-ETHIC)
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To: Servant of the 9
It doesn't make sense in my opinion, even judicially speaking. Michael didn't mention this "death wish" from Terri until AFTER he had won the money. No mention. The witnesses were truly hearsay, based on loose conversation, not based on "this is what I want" discussion from Terri.

The judge was wrong.

LL's Dad died last year, we pulled life saving techniques in the end because he was dying, his organs were failing, much like your Dad. Terri wasn't dying. It is clear to me from reading statements that she responds more than the "vegetative state" diagnosis. It is quite a different issue than your Dad or LL's who were dying. It is also clear to me that the judge left out lots of testimony he should not have, plus with the issue divided, and the relatives willing to take her over, what was there to gain by summarily ruling on such thin evidence? What would have been wrong with doing the new tests that diagnose this clearly as opposed to the old brain scan stuff you posted? Why was that a problem to you or anyone for that matter?

Methinks you are not seeing this clearly, that was the reason for my Andrew Sullivan comment. I am no friend of Randall Terry, and not any where near an extreme keep them alive forever advocate having signed my own living will to not go on extreme life support (I'll take a feeding tube anyday though), but it sure seems you have gone over most reasonable lines with this case. BTW....I started out ambivalent and stayed away from this case until the tube was pulled.

7,298 posted on 03/28/2005 12:40:34 PM PST by Lakeshark (Whatever...................................................................:-)
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To: Lakeshark

There ya are.
Had been wondering if ya'd been loved up by sireeens and turned into somethin' unnatural.


7,299 posted on 03/28/2005 12:48:09 PM PST by Darksheare ("Do you believe I'm worth coming home to?")
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To: Darksheare
Loved up by sireens is true, but I'm still Mr Natural over here...........

Hows it going?

7,300 posted on 03/28/2005 12:52:21 PM PST by Lakeshark (Whatever...................................................................:-)
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