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Mac OS X security myth exposed
Techworld ^ | 24 June 2004 | Matthew Broersma, Techworld

Posted on 01/16/2005 12:04:57 PM PST by Bush2000


24 June 2004
Mac OS X security myth exposed
And thousands of other products and OSes given security rundown.

By Matthew Broersma, Techworld

Windows is more secure than you think, and Mac OS X is worse than you ever imagined. That is according to statistics published for the first time this week by Danish security firm Secunia.

The stats, based on a database of security advisories for more than 3,500 products during 2003 and 2004 sheds light on the real security of enterprise applications and operating systems, according to the firm. Each product is broken down into pie charts demonstrating how many, what type and how significant security holes have been in each.

One thing the hard figures have shown is that OS X's reputation as a relatively secure operating system is unwarranted, Secunia said. This year and last year Secunia tallied 36 advisories on security issues with the software, many of them allowing attackers to remotely take over the system - comparable to figures on operating systems such as Windows XP Professional and Red Hat Enterprise Server.

"Secunia is now displaying security statistics that will open many eyes, and for some it might be very disturbing news," said Secunia chief executive Niels Henrik Rasmussen. "The myth that Mac OS X is secure, for example, has been exposed."

Its new service, easily acessible on its website, allows enterprises to gather exact information on specific products, by collating advisories from a large number of third-party security firms. A few other organisations maintain comparable lists, including the Open Source Vulnerability Database (OSVDB) and the Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) database, which provides common names for publicly known vulnerabilities.

Secunia said the new service could help companies keep an eye on the overall security of particular software - something that is often lost in the flood of advisories and the attendant hype. "Seen over a long period of time,the statistics may indicate whether a vendor has improved the quality of their products," said Secunia CTO Thomas Kristensen. He said the data could help IT managers get an idea of what kind of vulnerabilities are being found in their products, and prioritise what they respond to.

For example, Windows security holes generally receive a lot of press because of the software's popularity, but the statistics show that Windows isn't the subject of significantly more advisories than other operating systems. Windows XP Professional saw 46 advisories in 2003-2004, with 48 percent of vulnerabilities allowing remote attacks and 46 percent enabling system access, Secunia said.

Suse Linux Enterprise Server (SLES) 8 had 48 advisories in the same period, with 58 percent of the holes exploitable remotely and 37 percent enabling system access. Red Hat's Advanced Server 3 had 50 advisories in the same period - despite the fact that counting only began in November of last year. Sixty-six percent of the vulnerabilities were remotely exploitable, with 25 granting system access.

Mac OS X doesn't stand out as particularly more secure than the competition, according to Secunia. Of the 36 advisories issued in 2003-2004, 61 percent could be exploited across the Internet and 32 percent enabled attackers to take over the system. The proportion of critical bugs was also comparable with other software: 33 percent of the OS X vulnerabilities were "highly" or "extremely" critical by Secunia's reckoning, compared with 30 percent for XP Professional and 27 percent for SLES 8 and just 12 percent for Advanced Server 3. OS X had the highest proportion of "extremely critical" bugs at 19 percent.

As for the old guard, Sun's Solaris 9 saw its share of problems, with 60 advisories in 2003-2004, 20 percent of which were "highly" or "extremely" critical, Secunia said.

Comparing product security is notoriously difficult, and has become a contentious issue recently with vendors using security as a selling point. A recent Forrester study comparing Windows and Linux vendor response times on security flaws was heavily criticised for its conclusion that Linux vendors took longer to release patches. Linux vendors attach more weight to more critical flaws, leaving unimportant bugs for later patching, something the study failed to factor in, according to Linux companies. Vendors also took issue with the study's method of ranking "critical" security bugs, which didn't agree with the vendors' own criteria.

Secunia agreed that straightforward comparisons aren't possible, partly because some products receive more scrutiny than others. Microsoft products are researched more because of their wide use, while open-source products are easier to analyse because researchers have general access to the source code, Kristensen said.

"A third factor is that Linux / Unix people are very concerned about privilege escalation vulnerabilities, while Windows people in general are not, especially because of the shatter-like attacks which have been known for six years or more," he said. "A product is not necessarily more secure because fewer vulnerabilities are discovered."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
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1 posted on 01/16/2005 12:05:00 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: HAL9000; Swordmaker

Bump and weep...


2 posted on 01/16/2005 12:05:37 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
Ohh know!

What will the haughty, pretentious Mac heads do now?

3 posted on 01/16/2005 12:11:25 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: Bush2000
Per the same source:

Mac OS X - Currently, 0 out of 41 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database.

Microsoft Windows XP Professional- Currently, 20 out of 80 Secunia advisories, is marked as "Unpatched" in the Secunia database.

Let's include all the information available, why don't we?

4 posted on 01/16/2005 12:18:09 PM PST by Vermonter
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To: Vermonter
Let's include all the information available, why don't we?

<snicker>

5 posted on 01/16/2005 12:30:30 PM PST by solitas ('Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.6)
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To: Bush2000
Windows users have spent literally billions of man-hours on security problems - a disgusting waste of time, money and productivity.

Here is the current situation -

Windows worms, viruses and spyware: 70,000+.

Mac OS X worms, viruses and spyware: near zero.

6 posted on 01/16/2005 12:55:18 PM PST by HAL9000 (Spreading terrorist beheading propaganda videos is an Act of Treason!)
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To: bikepacker67
Deny and obfuscate.
7 posted on 01/16/2005 12:58:00 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Bush2000
Well if the socialist/liberal/gay/transexual/gungrabbing/globalist/antichristian/democrat/bisexual/lesbian/terrorist/antiAmerican/communist/anticapitalist/anarchist Mac and Linux users would stop pushing open source products we wouldn't have these problems.

/sarcasm_off
8 posted on 01/16/2005 1:00:30 PM PST by KoRn
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To: HAL9000

Let's try to stick to the topic, shall we?


9 posted on 01/16/2005 1:02:34 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Doohickey
Let's try to stick to the topic, shall we?

I am sticking to the topic. Which OS do you believe is more secure?

10 posted on 01/16/2005 1:10:44 PM PST by HAL9000 (Spreading terrorist beheading propaganda videos is an Act of Treason!)
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To: HAL9000
Mac OS X worms, viruses and spyware market share: near zero.

Fixed it for you.
11 posted on 01/16/2005 1:13:54 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: bikepacker67

Yep gonna go get some popcorn........this'll either be really good or a cricket concert !


12 posted on 01/16/2005 1:16:59 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

LOL


13 posted on 01/16/2005 1:19:59 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: Squantos
cricket chirp
14 posted on 01/16/2005 1:21:38 PM PST by Vermonter
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To: HAL9000

The topic is how many security vulnerabilities exist in various operating systems, NOT how many of those vulnerabilities have been exploited.

The question you pose is a "theory to practice" one. In theory, they are about equal. In practice however, you need to look at how tight the nut is between the keyboard and the chair.

Linux users are usually more computer savvy, so I think Linux is the most secure operating system. Mac users generally don't know or care how thier computer works, but they are also less likely to do things that make their systems less secure. Many Windows users shouldn't even be allowed to own computers. They are clueless to the point of being dangerous.

Anyway, any OS is as secure as the person who uses it wants it to be. Security isn't easy, convenient or fun. If you want to be secure, you have to do without certain things. Add functionality, take away from security.


15 posted on 01/16/2005 1:23:44 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Vermonter; cyborg

LMAO......I'm just here for purely scientific reasons ya know ....:o)


16 posted on 01/16/2005 1:26:19 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Squantos

I'm just here to watch the bloodbath debate.


17 posted on 01/16/2005 1:29:05 PM PST by cyborg (http://mentalmumblings.blogspot.com/)
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To: ShadowAce; backhoe

bump


18 posted on 01/16/2005 1:32:55 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: cyborg

Yep , I have all the updates, etc and run zone alarm, AVG, Spybot and spyblaster with a proximation program with the service pack 2 firewall and such ta boot so I have no dog in this fight. I have never used Mac so can't say pro or con whats best.


19 posted on 01/16/2005 1:34:27 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Bush2000
Having a monoculture is dangerous; if different companies use different systems which have different security holes, the risks of a massive worm or virus attack are smaller than if everyone has the same security holes, even though in the former case the total number of security holes may be larger.

It may well be that the only reason for the smaller number of attacks on Apples and Linux systems is that they're less popular and present a less-appealing tharget, even if there are no technical security advantages to them, the fact that they represent a smaller target is a major practical advantage.

Indeed, my biggest complaint with the DOJ's attacks on Microsoft is that they completely ignored the national security implications of having an OS monoculture. Pricing and trade practices pale in importance compared to that.

20 posted on 01/16/2005 1:36:05 PM PST by supercat (To call the Constitution a 'living document' is to call a moth-infested overcoat a 'living garment'.)
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