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Apple announces $499 Macintosh
AppleInsider ^ | January 11, 2005

Posted on 01/11/2005 10:49:21 AM PST by HAL9000

Preliminary info from MacWorld Expo -

Jobs introduces Mac mini. New member of Mac family including a slot-load Combo optical drive, FireWire, ethernet, USB 2.o, both DVI/VGA output. It plays DVDs, burn CDs, and is very quiet and tiny. Its height is half the size of an iPod mini. Jobs calls it "BYODKM" -- Bring Your Own Display, Keyboard, Mouse. Will come in two models: 1.25GHz 256MB/40GB for $499. A second model with a 1.4GHz, more memory and larger hard drive will sell for $599. Mac mini will ship on January 22. Ships in a box smaller than the regular iPod box.



TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; kneepads; littleprecious; mac; macintosh; macuser; paidshill; redmondpayroll; trollfromredmond
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To: Mr. Blonde
But as the later post says Microsoft is generally compatible.

Right. USB isn't proprietary with a myriad of "standards", it IS the standard, across all platforms, whether it's Linux, MS, or Apple.

141 posted on 01/11/2005 5:08:53 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Nowhere Man
I know in 1985, they had Windows 1.0 but that ran under DOS

Correct and what everyone knows as Windows Explorer (explore.exe) that was the "graphical user interface" of Windows 1.0, all the basic command line commands for copying, deleting, pasting, and program execution were in the menus.

142 posted on 01/11/2005 5:11:54 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: rwfromkansas

I'm not aware of any parts available to build laptops. However, the parts availability for towers is limitless. Newegg.com is the best; great prices, super fast shipping, and a large variety of parts.


143 posted on 01/11/2005 5:29:54 PM PST by Born Conservative (Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." Richard Nixon)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
The point was to not make you go out and buy all of those things.. but let you use what is already on your desk except for the piece of junk that is running spyware and viruses for third world hackers..

Besides.. this is a good deal because PC users like two button mice and apple doesn't sell one.. but OS X uses two button mice and more.. but you can add all of these bits from Apple if you like pretty economically.. they are just not forcing you to pay extra for them if you already have them on your desk.

144 posted on 01/11/2005 5:32:44 PM PST by dalight
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To: Bulwark
And the Dell also sounds like a harrier

LOL Mine actually sounds more like an F4 since I put in a more powerfull fan.But I'll never have to wonder if my cpu fan is working.

145 posted on 01/11/2005 5:42:48 PM PST by edchambers (l)
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To: JenB
What the heck? I'm just telling you we don't take care of Macs because it adds too much complexity to an already confusing combination of three Windows OS, four or five *nix flavors, and hundreds of different pieces of hardware.

Thats not what you said, That I could agree with (we dont allow Mac Desktops for that reason at my office). You said Macs were crap that cause too many networking problmes (saying they are harder or worse at networking than WinTel.

146 posted on 01/11/2005 5:44:28 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Born Conservative

I am looking online....no luck so far. The annoying things about customization like Dell offers is that rarely can you go DOWN significantly.

I really do not need the latest processor. I can get by on a 1.5. I will put the latest and greatest on my desktop anyway and leave the laptop for simple web surfing and typing, as well as some games in case I travel.

Oh well. Newegg is a great site...I have seen that one before.

I guess for notebooks, buying used is the best bet for cheaper prices.


147 posted on 01/11/2005 5:44:54 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: N3WBI3

Macs network with each other very easily. They don't always "play nice" with other computers. That's more of an issue with a network running off a Windows server, I believe, but it is definitely true.


148 posted on 01/11/2005 5:46:04 PM PST by JenB
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To: rwfromkansas
You do realize that 20 years ago it was 1985?

I certainly do, I graduated high school in 1985. B-D
149 posted on 01/11/2005 5:47:22 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: dalight
but let you use what is already on your desk except for the piece of junk that is running spyware and viruses for third world hackers..

My computers have never had spyware, virii and most importantly, third world hackers can go pound sand.

150 posted on 01/11/2005 5:48:58 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: JenB
They don't always "play nice" with other computers.

Huh, again your going back to apple talk, which is for all intensive purposes a dead protocol. I run a hume network with Windows (My work Laptop), Linux (My Playground), Solaris (Stuff for work), and OSX (My wifes computer) their is no difference in how complex they are to network. Plug it in, it picks up DHCP done..

That's more of an issue with a network running off a Windows server, I believe, but it is definitely true.

No its an issue with not running a network off a windows server correctly, I can plug anything into my network at work (windows NT domain w/ wins) and it works just fine..

151 posted on 01/11/2005 5:53:51 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The only reason I was considering it is because I've been looking for a way to get my 70 year old mother to use email and Internet access.

My 89 year old mother and my buddy's 87 year old mother are both using old candy colored iMacs... which can be picked up on eBay for less than $150. Both are using OSX and have zero problems surfing the web and receiving and sending email.

152 posted on 01/11/2005 5:57:08 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: KevinDavis
Just like you see here.. folks have all sorts of opinions. But frankly, before buying a used laptop you need to do some research. Just like you are doing. Most laptops cannot be serviced by anyone locally so they are very expensive to fix. Its a real value to get one that you can "rewarrantee". Also a cracked or damaged display is gonnersville for most Laptops.. costs more than the machine.

Generally you cannot just pick a brand and expect every Laptop they make to be good. Its a model by model thing. That said, I personally prefer IBM Thinkpads, Toshiba as Windoze machines.. As Mac's its prolly not a good idea to buy any "Black" Mac portable.. just on the age factor. People just love the Titaniums and the iBooks have held up very nicely, its prolly time to avoid any of the colorful iBooks for the same reason as the "Black" ones.. just age.. more than 3 years old. Unless you know what you are doing.

Personally, I would recommend shopping really hard for a new portable.. that you can afford rather than buying used.

153 posted on 01/11/2005 5:57:39 PM PST by dalight
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To: JenB
Macs network with each other very easily.

Any computer with the basic TCP/IP networking protocols can network among each other easily. When your connecting your Mac to the internet (whether via dialup or broadband), your Mac is 99.9% of the time communicating with a Unix machine on the other end. If you have a DHCP enabled home network, the setup is as "plug'n'play" as it gets. DHCP also makes getting up and going on broadband a snap too.

154 posted on 01/11/2005 6:00:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: frankenMonkey
i've run a windows emulator on a mac and it's much more stable - never crashed.

One of the really nice things about running Windows of any flavor on a Mac in VirtualPC is that ability to make a complete copy of the virtual PC C: drive, stick it in an out-of the way corner of your harddrive. The next time your VirtualPC installation of Windows XP Professional gets a spyware, don't bother to clean it... delete it. Bring back a copy of your backup and away you go... takes about 2 minutes!

155 posted on 01/11/2005 6:02:20 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Born Conservative
The benefit of already assembled computers for the vast majority of folks is that someone has figured out what components will work together. This is the problem of putting them together yourself.

I have dealt with Newegg too.. and they really do seem to get the mix right, if you want bits and pieces.. great pricing and decent service at the same time.. I am wondering if these folks are making a profit and if so.. when are they going public? lol..

156 posted on 01/11/2005 6:03:19 PM PST by dalight
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To: dalight
The benefit of already assembled computers for the vast majority of folks is that someone has figured out what components will work together. This is the problem of putting them together yourself.

I agree. I'm fortunate in that I work with a guy who is an absolute guru; he has assembled 40+ boxes himself. It's a definite advantage.

Not sure if they have plans on going public, but if they do, I'm sure they will do well.

157 posted on 01/11/2005 6:11:01 PM PST by Born Conservative (Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." Richard Nixon)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Just your standard 101 key PS/2 keyboard, and the MS optical Intellimouse which either can plug into the USB port (by default) but came with a small PS/2 adaptor.

That'll work.

158 posted on 01/11/2005 6:17:09 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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To: Swordmaker
...which can be picked up on eBay for less than $150.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm there. Thanks.

159 posted on 01/11/2005 6:23:26 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: JenB
Macs network with each other very easily. They don't always "play nice" with other computers. That's more of an issue with a network running off a Windows server, I believe, but it is definitely true.

Hmmmm... and when was the last time you added an OSX Mac to a network? Or were you just told these "definitely true" facts?

160 posted on 01/11/2005 6:23:55 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
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