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National Treasure it is NOT!

Posted on 11/29/2004 12:37:12 PM PST by BereanBrain

I believe National Treasure implies that Freemasons are a POSITVE influence on our country.

Anybody that knows the TRUTH about Freemasonry rather than the propaganda they wrap themselves in will NOT be takin in by the positive portrayal in this movie.

Please America, wake up, don't buy into the guys who brought "Seperation of Church/State" to America, model ISLAM as the highest truth (the Shriners), label the Holy Bible as "Furinture" in a lodge, and outlaw the name of "Jesus" in any lodge.

I know I will get flamed by 10,000 Masons and Mason supporters on this, but if you want to know the TRUTH read what was the only book given to EVERY mason until just recently - MORALS AND DOGMA by Albert Pike. it is 800 pages, but the truth about masonry can be found from their own lips.

BTW, Albert Pike is the BIG man in Masonry in the US - and he just also happened to found the KKK. Again, using religion to achieve his social purposes.


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To: AmishDude

Let me know if he gets a clue. I'll be in the shower.


261 posted on 11/29/2004 2:09:30 PM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: RKV

I wonder how many anti-Freep forums will use my post now. Oh, well, it's better that the truth be told, brother. See coded message in tagline.


262 posted on 11/29/2004 2:11:25 PM PST by AmishDude (The bird flies at midnight when its droppings cannot be found.)
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To: AmishDude


In Morals and Dogma, Pike wrote:

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it....


The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason…


every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives Him, the reflected image of man himself..." 1



The next statement reduces the Masonic philosophy to a single premise. Pike writes:



"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black god...


Lucifer, the Light Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light...


Doubt it not!" 2



Albert Pike explained in Morals & Dogma how the true nature of Freemasonry is kept a secret from Masons of lower degrees:



"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry. The whole body of the Royal and Sacerdotal Art was hidden so carefully, centuries since, in the High Degrees, as that it is even yet impossible to solve many of the enigmas which they contain. It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain, and without any true reward violate his obligations as an Adept. Masonry is the veritable Sphinx, buried to the head in the sands heaped round it by the ages. " 3


263 posted on 11/29/2004 2:12:40 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: RKV

Do you realize that 'Mason' spelled backward is 'No Sam'?

Do you realize that means they are against Uncle Sam and therefore against the Government of the United States?

Nickolas Cage speled backward is Egac Salokcin? Do you realize what that means?


264 posted on 11/29/2004 2:12:45 PM PST by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: 1smallVoice

"National Treasure" backwards is "erusaerT lanoitaN"! I don't know what it means but it's EVIL! EVIL, I say!!


265 posted on 11/29/2004 2:17:26 PM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: 1smallVoice

No, I guess you will have to enlighten me about what Egac Salokcin means.


266 posted on 11/29/2004 2:18:16 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

I've read this before, but thanks for the opportunity to read it again.


267 posted on 11/29/2004 2:18:50 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: Ann Archy

Yes, I understand that it is a religion, but completely devoid of Jesus Christ.


268 posted on 11/29/2004 2:19:49 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

The whole book is available from a Freemason site at

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/apikefr.html

you can confirm anything I have qouted there. The truth speaks for itself.

Just read


269 posted on 11/29/2004 2:21:42 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: Ann Archy

You are full of shiite.


270 posted on 11/29/2004 2:22:04 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: BereanBrain

Bump for later reading and enjoyment.


271 posted on 11/29/2004 2:22:15 PM PST by Portnoy (Fahrenheit 451...Today's Temperature is hotter than you think...)
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To: TheBigB

I always knew those damned little boy scouts were just putting on an act with their oaths and secret language and camping out and merit badges.......They have to be stopped........


272 posted on 11/29/2004 2:22:30 PM PST by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: JesseHousman

Yes, the Texas area has gone so far as to in writing expressly forbid the use of the name "Jesus" in any lodge, as it might be "offensive" - This while you can use Osirus, Set, Allah, or any other name, just not Jesus.

Sounds like our Publik Fool system, no?


273 posted on 11/29/2004 2:23:38 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

what happened to no personal attacks?


274 posted on 11/29/2004 2:24:23 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: oldleft

Not being a Mason, I can't say for certain but I believe that they have their own chapter of freemasonry.


275 posted on 11/29/2004 2:24:25 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

Yes, it's Prince Hall Masonry.

Likewise females are only allowed into the order of the Eastern Star.


276 posted on 11/29/2004 2:25:50 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: RKV

No, I guess you will have to enlighten me about what Egac Salokcin means.

E gacs alok cin.......now do you get it, do I have to do your thinking for you, are you too blind to see the truth?

Come on, get stoned and read this......over and over.....E gacs alok cin.......It is plain as day.....


277 posted on 11/29/2004 2:26:09 PM PST by 1smallVoice (Clinton brought us Bush)
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To: BereanBrain

That hasn't stopped you from making totally personal and biased attacks upon a very worthy organization.


278 posted on 11/29/2004 2:26:15 PM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: BereanBrain

I think you are taking this movie too seriously. There were Masons in "peggy sue got married" and they supposedly did some rather strange things (don't want to spoil the plot). I know nothing about the Freemasons, but National Treasure is just a silly movie, that I do know.


279 posted on 11/29/2004 2:28:40 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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To: BereanBrain

You fell for that one? You're not as bright as I thought. That was published years ago to throw guys like you off the scent. Get real. Do you think true Masons would really reveal the truth of the designs we have on the world? I'm giving you hints and glimpses but you can't truly grasp the full concept. You have no idea what you're dealing with.


280 posted on 11/29/2004 2:28:55 PM PST by AmishDude
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