Posted on 10/19/2004 11:35:58 AM PDT by Bones75
Well, over that last few years, I have pretty much started downloading all of my music off of P2P sites, because so many artist are such left wing whack jobs, that I refuse to support them financially but I still want to listen to their music.
The one last and final holdout whom I would always go and buy the CD was Eminem, because, and I believe this 100 percent, there is not another lyricst on the face of God's green Earth who can match his skills on the microphone. Nobody who has ever laid words over a beat can do it as good as he can. That's just the way it is.
But, and I'm sorry Em, you're still "the man" and all. But after this new anti-Bush song you put out ("Mosh"), from now on I'll be getting all your music free off P2P sites, and you'll not get another cent beyond the hundred or so bucks I have spent on you thus far, towards CD's and concerts and your 8-mile movie.
(Don't get me wrong, it was worth every cent)
Bitch about it all you want, but I'll be driving around in my car come November playing your new album, but the CD won't say "Eminem" on it.. it will say "Maxell.. 750mb/80min Capacity"
I am dissapointed, a guy with his intelligence and talent should know better. He is siding with the very same whiny little sissies that we so enjoyed watching him put to bed.
He should've stayed out out of politics, that's all I have to say. I have lost a bit of respect for him.
It's a shame to see such an incredibly talented artist side with such thoughtless morons.
Bones
And I wouldn't. No melody equals no music. Beat is a part of music but in and of it's self is not music.
There is good and bad in everything.
Once again. Not arguing. But it is not music. And I have heard some very good stuff.
But like I said, you can not hum it. There may be a few places in a rap where the rhythmic chant becomes song but this does not compose a majority of the chant. So it should not be classified as a song. It is a rap.
That's a fair argument. I guess I still enjoy some rap, regardless of we may or may not classify it as.
I also like that new U2 song alot. I never payed them much attention growing up, but those guys rock.
regards
-Bryan
Generational gap? What generation? I'm 21, I absolutely hate "rap music" (an oxymoron if there ever was one).
And Eminem exemplifies the worst in the genre - misogynistic lyrics, anti-moral ideals, liberal values...
It is chanting, or whatever.
Certainly not artistic in any way as far as I can tell.
I have heard some very good rap, although I have heard more bad. Mostly I find a lot of it one dimensional, the emotions behind most seem to run the gamut from anger to rage and back.
"Yeah, you hate everything, we get the picture." *yawn* "Now go away little boy you're boring me." would be what I would say to most of them.
Will Smith is one that understands that. While it maybe "bubblegum rap" it still has a wider range then 90% of the stuff out there.
Rap will not come into it's own (IMHO) until it loses the "gangsta" bit. The problem is that anger is the most accessible emotion that you can reach with beat. Hitting other emotional buttons takes more work.
"Rap will not come into it's own (IMHO) until it loses the "gangsta" bit. The problem is that anger is the most accessible emotion that you can reach with beat. Hitting other emotional buttons takes more work."
It has come into it's own. But you're right, the "gangster" thing seems to go on and on, despite the fact that it is more played out and passe than anything I have ever seen. The stuff that I hear on the radio and that is on MTV. (I don't watch MTV, but I assume it's there) is just so devoid of creativity it's just sad. And one main reason for this is that a rapper gets big, then what he does is bring all of his no talent friends from the neighborhood, makes them his "crew".. then here comes each one of THEIR "solo albums" in rapid succesion, to flood the airwaves with more of the same "bling bling" garbage and rented Ferrari's and Limos used for the videos.
(You sold 200,000 copies and now you've got a helicopter than you drink champagne on with a bunch of girls in thongs? Sure pal.)
That's another reason I like Em. Never a "gangster".. self depreciating at times and has often been quicker to point out his own shortcomings than somebody else's. Hits on every emotion, although in the beginning there was a lot of anger, but his was real and he explained it with detail and sharp clarity that I had yet to hear in all my years of watching the music business run it's course, nor have I heard it since? (Maybe Tupac was close, he was "gangster" rap, but very tallented, nonetheless and also didn't limit his emotional output to mere "ghetto rage")
Em's place is not on the streets, his place is in the studio. That's where he shines, that's where he belongs.
I predict that after this album, he will continue to run his record company and become a mogul of music, getting into rock and other types of music. He has good business sense.
Bones
AW come on... I like Eminem... sure, his song sucks, but he's a good entertainer. Just because he wrote one stupid song doesn't mean he's bad. Hell, Toby Keith sucks ass (and he's a Dumocrat) but I'm glad he's standing up for Bush... doesn't make me like his music...
"Eminem is a loser."
He is an obnoxious mysogonist who projects his self loathing issues. Guess his mommy didn't breast feed him.
Eminem? Talent?
You gotta be kiddin' me.
I'll never forget the comment someone posted here from DU about this crap video. It "made me cry" was the statement... "everyone should see this!"
I haven't seen the entire video; MTV is not welcome in my home. But I've seen clips, lucky me, on the news. A woman is laid off and blames Bush? Her kids are frightened? So she joins a mob or a gang or some anti-government group? And I'm not up on the symbolism in music videos, but the fact this "woman" dons a black hooded robe tells me plenty. Seen the pictures of terrorists wearing black lately?
That's a bit more than a generation gap. It's an intelligence gap. It is not the government's responsibility to provide jobs to people. Personal responsibility is lost to too many in the younger generation. (and other gen's as well, sadly).
I am grateful you will not be buying his music as a fan because of his political rant mixed into his musical "message." At least you've thought it through on that level. I've sacrificed about 3 dozen of my favorite musicians as well to the altar of "Shut up and Sing." :) Foo Fighters, Bruce, Dave Matthews are just a few. I could name many more, but football is on :)
I feel the same way. I am pretty dissapointed by him doing an anti-Bush song, but I will forgive him if the new album turns out to be up to par.
Of course, I am just hoping and praying intently that Bush wins tommorow, if he does win, I will actually get a bit of smug satisfaction when I listen to the song, and probably will get a decent chuckle out of it too.
Bones
Yes, it is a shame when musicians we like go hard left. And it seems to happen so often. Maybe it's the never-have-to-work-for-anything-in-your-life-and-be-totally-taken-care-of bug that they get bit by that turns them into liberal kooks, who knows.
If I sacrificed every artist that it happened with, I'd have nothing to listen to except country Though I don't dislike country, I am not a huge fan.
Bones
couldn't have said it better myself. I think he has mad a rash judgement without really thinking it through. Also, being a member of the entertainment community, he probably has extremely mindless leftisy bile spewed into his ear constantly by his peers.
It's a damn shame he didn't stand up to it better. I always saw him a the anti-liberal.
Bones
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