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Some Really Off The Wall Comments By Kerry
Tonight's Debate | 9/30/04

Posted on 09/30/2004 8:40:40 PM PDT by Williams

I haven't heard any discussion of some particularly radical remarks by Kerry in the debate. First and foremost, he outlined his plan for Iran, which was to give the Mullahs the nuclear fuel they want and see if they use it peacefully under international supervision. That is exactly the plan that failed in North Korea and I can't imagine anyone wanting to give nuclear materials to the World's number one state sponsor of terrorism.

Second, Kerry made a number of not too veiled accusations that the Iraq war was a grab for oil. He said the first thing our troops did in Bagdhad was to secure the Oil Ministry building, and he made a later statement that suggested we should renounce any interest in Iraqi oil.

Third, Kerry complained that we are building bases in Iraq that "look permanent" and he said he wants to make it clear we will have no bases in Iraq. The U.S. can't say it wants bases now, but once invited by the Iraqis, only a fool would turn down basing rights next to Iran and Syria. Kerry was at times sounding very much like the peacenik who wants us totally out of the Middle East.

Also, I know that Kerry was asked early on if the war in Iraq was a "mistake." He said of course it wasn't. But then later he had his quote about the invasion of Iraq being a mistake. In fact, Kerry spent the whole night saying we shouldn't have attacked for a wide range of reasons, but then he also kept making it sound as though he would have attacked a few months later.

I think his remarks about giving Iran nuclear fuel should be played up in particular. And why would he renounce bases if offered by a new ally in an absolutely vital region?


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To: Williams
More off the wall stuff: Iran and nuclear fuel:

"With respect to Iran, the British, French, and Germans were the ones who initiated an effort without the United States, regrettably, to begin to try to move to curb the nuclear possibilities in Iran. I believe we could have done better.

I think the United States should have offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel, test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes. If they weren't willing to work a deal, then we could have put sanctions together. The president did nothing.

With respect to North Korea, the real story: We had inspectors and television cameras in the nuclear reactor in North Korea. Secretary Bill Perry negotiated that under President Clinton. And we knew where the fuel rods were. And we knew the limits on their nuclear power...."

So he's saying that we should have given nuclear fuel to Iran, then monitor them. 'Scuze me, but what you followed up with on N. Korea is that we had (under Clinton) given them fuel and monitored them. Obviously that worked real well, Senator...

41 posted on 09/30/2004 9:14:40 PM PDT by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: Williams
You don't go to war w/o the BODY ARMOUR! And he voted against it.

And we don't have enough troops there! What??

42 posted on 09/30/2004 9:18:41 PM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: Williams

First and foremost, he outlined his plan for Iran, which was to give the Mullahs the nuclear fuel they want and see if they use it peacefully under international supervision.

this is one of the most alarming and absurd stances Kerry has. This needs to be pointed out again and again....lets help give Iran the capability and see if we can trust them??????? what an idiot.


43 posted on 09/30/2004 9:24:20 PM PDT by donnab
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To: maxter
Word counts from Kerry (hastily done, but real close)

I - 144
I will or I'll - 15
I have or I've - 31
I am or I'm - 21
I can - 6
I believe - 18
me - 22

44 posted on 09/30/2004 9:27:30 PM PDT by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: Katomic

I agree with you re: the President's poor presentation. He appeared hesitant and at a loss for words many times, almost as if the notes he constantly glanced at were printed too small for him to read. He revisited his main talking points over and over ("work hard/hard work", "a free Iraq is good for America", etc.)until they sounded cliche'd. I agree with his firm and fixed vision, but unfortunately, I think it appeared one-dimensional. Kerry, on the other hand, was all over the board which appeared like he had a firm grasp on multiple issues. It would take the kind of education we get on Free Republic to recognize his double-speak and his underlying U.N. agenda. Its scary that politically uneducated swing voters might vote for someone who can be so smooth yet so dangerous to us all.


45 posted on 09/30/2004 9:35:53 PM PDT by ironmaidenPR2717 (Libs spew hate and call it truth. Conservatives speak truth and its labelled "hate".)
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To: Williams

I liked Skerry's adjacent statements about sealing the Iraqi border and having a troop drawdown within six months.


46 posted on 09/30/2004 9:38:04 PM PDT by doblin
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To: doblin
How is Kerry going to keep Nuclear Weapons out of N Korea???

Pray for W and Our Troops

47 posted on 09/30/2004 9:40:35 PM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: Williams

Yaaawn is going to follow in Ronald Reagan's footsteps??


48 posted on 09/30/2004 9:42:25 PM PDT by bray (Nam Vets Rock!!)
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To: GailA
We are taking on all who volunteer now...

I listened to talk show host and Constitutional lawyer Mark Levin tonight and he explained that volunteers are on a waiting list because the size of the military is controlled by Congress and it has not authorized a force increase. This came up while Mark was debunking the rumors of a draft. Let me reiterate: There are more volunteers than places for them in the military and they are on waiting lists of a year or more.

49 posted on 09/30/2004 9:48:07 PM PDT by freedom_forge
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To: bpjam

"This retarded policy of giving the hostage takers nuclear fuel and technology is complete lunacy. Why not just deliver missiles to them so they can launch them at us while you are at it? "

I've got a better plan. Why don't we all jump into the ocean to drown ourselves after handing america over to the thugs.

Then there won't be a need for the wars!


50 posted on 09/30/2004 9:52:13 PM PDT by modest proposal
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To: hoosiermama

Maddie sez Kerry is the winner--I heard her on the radio right afterwards. I guess that's because both she and Kerry love the "Open-Wallet Diplomacy" approach.


51 posted on 10/01/2004 5:11:20 AM PDT by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Katomic

The proper way to address the President is either "President Bush or Mr Bush"


52 posted on 10/01/2004 9:35:18 AM PDT by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: Katomic; Darksheare; meowmeow; Constitution Day; 4mycountry; Poohbah; Grampa Dave; ...

And that's for not knowing what you are talking about...

53 posted on 10/01/2004 9:35:33 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Author of Freerepublic for DUmmies)
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To: Katomic

Aren't you getting tired of saying the same thing over and over and hoping it becomes Truth? Oh wait...that's what liberals do, led by the two johns. We're going to flush them. Haven't you heard?


54 posted on 10/01/2004 9:36:24 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Zavien Doombringer
That oughta get his attention !! :^D

55 posted on 10/01/2004 9:38:34 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: scott0347
You forgot, Mr. President is also appropriate
56 posted on 10/01/2004 9:40:29 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Author of Freerepublic for DUmmies)
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To: MeekOneGOP

"Can you hear me now?"


57 posted on 10/01/2004 9:41:55 AM PDT by Poohbah (If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much room.)
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To: Katomic

Why are you being so critical of Dubya?
Why aren't you pointing out teh repeated lies of Kerry in his statements last night.
Like his claim that there were soldiers in Iraq without KEVLAR HELMETS?
(And if it were true, it'd be because he voted AGAINST the funding appropriations for it!)


58 posted on 10/01/2004 9:47:54 AM PDT by Darksheare (Hey DU, if I buy your servers, you'll have to be polite to me and call me your LORD AND MASTER.)
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To: Darksheare

Thnak Gdo! The artillery si hree


59 posted on 10/01/2004 9:50:34 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Author of Freerepublic for DUmmies)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

LOL!
The typo demon got you too, eh?


60 posted on 10/01/2004 9:56:01 AM PDT by Darksheare (Hey DU, if I buy your servers, you'll have to be polite to me and call me your LORD AND MASTER.)
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