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1 posted on 09/03/2004 6:49:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 09/03/2004 6:50:58 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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THIS is science? May have, might have, etc...


3 posted on 09/03/2004 6:52:22 AM PDT by ikka
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Two fatty bubbles?....

7 posted on 09/03/2004 7:03:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke Bottle figure....3 LITER!)
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"Bubbles"? Someone's been staring horizontally at the bottom of their brewsky glass for too long.


9 posted on 09/03/2004 7:05:56 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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"Howard Hughes Medical Institute researchers are proposing that the first battle for survival-of-the-fittest might have played out as a simple physical duel between fatty bubbles stuffed with genetic material"

But war never solved anything


13 posted on 09/03/2004 7:09:40 AM PDT by Hoodlum91
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You mean that "Star Trek: The Next Generation" episode was right?
15 posted on 09/03/2004 7:14:22 AM PDT by pabianice
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Forgive my lack of knowledge here. My problem is understanding how, or even why, "bubbles" would, uh, "feel the urge" to compete.

In a strictly mechanistic viewpoint of the universe, why is there any reason for increasing order and complexity than there is for total disorder, entropy and decay after the "Big Bang?"

Why would a very particular chain of organic molecues feel "compelled," or even bother "trying," to reproduce itself? Why would a molecue "care" about "game theory?"

The only "materialist" answer I can imagine is that there is something very "special" about DNA that defies explanation by valances, or chemical and attractive forces.

17 posted on 09/03/2004 7:50:13 AM PDT by pollwatcher (in Memory of the late, great Ted Cassidy (1932-1979) - a Kerry Impersonator well ahead of his time!)
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Weird...but interesting...


26 posted on 09/03/2004 8:12:39 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Whoever knew there was so much "sex" going on during the opening of the Lawrence Welk show?!

*CHAMPAGNE POP*

30 posted on 09/03/2004 8:20:58 AM PDT by Lurking2Long
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How could an animal evolve to NEED toilet paper.?..
One of those things that make you go Hmmmm....
Puts a whole nother take on neantherthal grooming practices...
Must have gotten pretty ripe in those "caves"...

Oh! Well BACK TO THE ELECTION...

33 posted on 09/03/2004 8:55:24 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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I WILL NOT STAND FOR THESE CHILDREN TRYING TO PLAY GOD!



Dueling bubbles? Give me a break...
34 posted on 09/03/2004 9:09:54 AM PDT by Guvmint_Cheese
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This theory isn't really new entirely, only the underlined details seem to be actually new. They've done experiments with lipid bubbles forming membranes on their own for awhile now.

The interesting part is that they seem to start 'eating' spontanously at a very early stage. Next stage is getting them to split and reproduce. All with nothing more than a few common chemicals and energy. Before you know it (well, billions of years) you have bacteria, plants, animals, people.

This is pretty definitive proof that life is nothing more than a completely natural event, and probably widespread throughout the universe.


35 posted on 09/03/2004 9:17:55 AM PDT by Kornev
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Bubbleheaded bump.

38 posted on 09/03/2004 9:24:36 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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The Almighty started and directed the process, regardless of what the process was.


39 posted on 09/03/2004 9:34:06 AM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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And when Tweedle Beetles battle with their paddles in a bubble in a bottle,

And the bottle's on a poodle, and the poodle's eating noodles,

It's a Tweedle Beetle Noodle Poodle Bubble Bottle Paddle Battle.


48 posted on 09/03/2004 11:07:00 AM PDT by js1138 (Speedy architect of perfect labyrinths.)
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You mean this fatty bubble?


51 posted on 09/03/2004 11:12:24 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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First thing that came to my mind, and I'm probably the only one who gets the reference


58 posted on 09/03/2004 11:52:40 AM PDT by Dimensio (Join the Monthly Internet Flash Mob: http://www.aa419.org)
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I don't see the point of this "research" -- you can't prove it empirically or theoretically -- it would always remain speculation. Hence, there's no point in doing this -- leave the idea of creation to religion

I can agree with small-scale evolution -- wolves to dogs etc. but taking that and trying to extrapolate backwards is like taking a piece of the small toe bone of a man's skeleton and trying to picture what he looked like
65 posted on 09/03/2004 4:45:45 PM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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What the hell, this is too good an opening, so I'll throw them both out.

Tiny bubbles....

and

I didn't know Lawrence Welk and his champagne music were that old!
72 posted on 09/03/2004 11:09:20 PM PDT by RJS1950
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"We proposed that the genetic material could drive the growth of cells just by virtue of being there,"

Somebody has to ask: How did they "get there?"

77 posted on 09/04/2004 11:21:05 AM PDT by Old Professer (The enemy is among us; he is us; we know it, we dare not say it - someone will be offended.)
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