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Battle Between Bubbles Might Have Started Evolution
Howard Hughes Medical Institute via AScribe Newswire ^ | 02 September 2004 | Staff

Posted on 09/03/2004 6:49:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

Howard Hughes Medical Institute researchers are proposing that the first battle for survival-of-the-fittest might have played out as a simple physical duel between fatty bubbles stuffed with genetic material. The scientists suggest that genetic material that replicated quickly may have been all the bubbles needed to edge out their competitors and begin evolving into more sophisticated cells.

This possibility, revealed by laboratory experiments with artificial fatty acid sacs, is in sharp contrast to a current theory of the earliest evolution of cells, which suggests that cellular evolution was driven by primordial genetic machinery that actively synthesized cell membranes or otherwise influenced cell stability or division.

The researchers, led by Howard Hughes Medical Institute investigator Jack W. Szostak, published their findings in the September 3, 2004, issue of the journal Science. Szostak and first author Irene Chen, both from Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard Medical School, collaborated on the studies with Richard Roberts of the California Institute of Technology.

Cells are basically sacs encapsulated by bilayered membranes of fatty acids and other lipids, plus proteins. A central question in evolution is how simple versions of these cells, or vesicles, first arose and began the process of competition that drove the evolution of life.

"Most of the previous thinking about how cells grew and evolved was based on the idea of the initial evolution of structural RNAs or ribozymes -- enzymes that could synthesize membrane molecules," said Szostak. The ribozymes might have made more membrane material while the structural RNAs might have formed a cytoskeleton that influenced stability, shape, growth or division, he said. However, Szostak and his colleagues theorized that a far simpler physical process might explain why cells would compete with one another for the materials necessary to expand their size.

"We proposed that the genetic material could drive the growth of cells just by virtue of being there," he said. "As the RNA exerts an osmotic pressure on the inside of these little membrane vesicles, this internal pressure puts a tension on the membrane, which tries to expand. We proposed that it could do so through the spontaneous transfer of material from other vesicles nearby that have less internal pressure because they have less genetic material inside."

In order to test their theory, the researchers first constructed simple model "protocells," in which they filled fatty-acid vesicles with either a sucrose solution or the same solvent without sucrose. The sucrose solution created a greater osmotic pressure inside the vesicles than the solvent alone. The membranes of the simple vesicles were not as sophisticated as the membranes of today's living cells, said Szostak. However, they closely resembled the kinds of primordial vesicles that might have existed at the beginning of evolution.

When the scientists mixed the two vesicles, they observed that the ones with sucrose - in which there was greater membrane tension - did, indeed, grow by drawing membrane material from those without sucrose.

"Once we had some understanding that this process worked, we moved on to more interesting versions, in which we loaded the vesicles with genetic molecules," said Szostak. The researchers conducted the same competition tests using vesicles loaded with the basic molecular building blocks of genetic material, called nucleotides. Next, they used RNA segments, and finally a large, natural RNA molecule. In all cases, they saw that the vesicles swollen with genetic material grew, while those with no genetic material shrank.

It is important to note, said Szostak, the concentrations of genetic material that his group used were comparable to those found in living cells.

"In contrast to the earlier idea that Darwinian competition at the cellular level had to wait until the evolution of lipid-synthesizing ribozymes or structural RNAs, our results show that all you would need is to have the RNA replicating," said Szostak. "The cells that had RNA that replicated better -- and ended up with more RNA inside -- would grow faster. So, there is a direct coupling between how well the RNA replicates and how quickly the cell can grow. It's just based on a physical principle and would emerge spontaneously," he said.

According to Szostak, the next step in the research will depend on another major effort under way in his laboratory to create artificial, replicating RNA molecules.

"If we can get self-replicating RNAs, then we can put them into these simple membrane compartments and hope to actually see this competitive process of growth that we are hypothesizing," he said.


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1 posted on 09/03/2004 6:49:50 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; ..
Evolution Ping! This list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and maybe other science topics like cosmology.
See the list's description in my freeper homepage. Then FReepmail me to be added or dropped.
2 posted on 09/03/2004 6:50:58 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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To: PatrickHenry

THIS is science? May have, might have, etc...


3 posted on 09/03/2004 6:52:22 AM PDT by ikka
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"When the scientists mixed the two vesicles, they observed that the ones with sucrose - in which there was greater membrane tension - did, indeed, grow by drawing membrane material from those without sucrose"

Sucrose = sugars. So finally I understand Atkins diet. No sugar, no bloat.


4 posted on 09/03/2004 6:55:15 AM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: ikka

5 posted on 09/03/2004 6:56:10 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: harrycarey

"fatty bubbles" with genetic materials but no brains...

Oh, you mean Michael Moore....


6 posted on 09/03/2004 6:58:49 AM PDT by UncleSamUSA (the land of the free and the home of the brave)
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To: PatrickHenry

Two fatty bubbles?....

7 posted on 09/03/2004 7:03:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke Bottle figure....3 LITER!)
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To: UncleSamUSA

Don Ho: Fatty Bubbles.......


8 posted on 09/03/2004 7:04:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke Bottle figure....3 LITER!)
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To: PatrickHenry

"Bubbles"? Someone's been staring horizontally at the bottom of their brewsky glass for too long.


9 posted on 09/03/2004 7:05:56 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: PatrickHenry
A central question in evolution is how simple versions of these cells, or vesicles, first arose and began the process of competition that drove the evolution of life.

God knows......

10 posted on 09/03/2004 7:06:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Hillary has a Coke Bottle figure....3 LITER!)
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To: ikka

Yes that is science. Scientific theories are always qualified like this because at any time, even a theory that has been accepted for hundreds of years can be shown to be incorrect. (Ask Isaac Newton about this, for example). Furthermore, no amount of evidence can prove a scientific theory correct. Science is always speculative to some degree.


11 posted on 09/03/2004 7:07:34 AM PDT by stremba
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To: ikka

Yes, this is how science works. Theories are proposed, bandied about, gaps are filled in or not. Over time, theses are tested and either supported or abandoned.

The fact that we are seeing the early stages of the process here, with speculation and conjecture, does not diminish the method.


12 posted on 09/03/2004 7:08:38 AM PDT by horatio
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To: PatrickHenry

"Howard Hughes Medical Institute researchers are proposing that the first battle for survival-of-the-fittest might have played out as a simple physical duel between fatty bubbles stuffed with genetic material"

But war never solved anything


13 posted on 09/03/2004 7:09:40 AM PDT by Hoodlum91
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To: ikka
THIS is science? May have, might have, etc...


How about "In the beginning God"
14 posted on 09/03/2004 7:12:54 AM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: PatrickHenry
You mean that "Star Trek: The Next Generation" episode was right?
15 posted on 09/03/2004 7:14:22 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: PatrickHenry
So what? We still don't know exactly exactly exactly how you get life from non-life. That's proof that there's no way. And even when we think we know a way, we won't have proof. And even if we demonstrate it, all we have demonstrated is Design. Therefore it didn't happen that way.

</You_Can't_Make_Me_See_Mode>

16 posted on 09/03/2004 7:46:21 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Forgive my lack of knowledge here. My problem is understanding how, or even why, "bubbles" would, uh, "feel the urge" to compete.

In a strictly mechanistic viewpoint of the universe, why is there any reason for increasing order and complexity than there is for total disorder, entropy and decay after the "Big Bang?"

Why would a very particular chain of organic molecues feel "compelled," or even bother "trying," to reproduce itself? Why would a molecue "care" about "game theory?"

The only "materialist" answer I can imagine is that there is something very "special" about DNA that defies explanation by valances, or chemical and attractive forces.

17 posted on 09/03/2004 7:50:13 AM PDT by pollwatcher (in Memory of the late, great Ted Cassidy (1932-1979) - a Kerry Impersonator well ahead of his time!)
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To: PatrickHenry

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fatty bubbles stuffed with genetic material
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Anyone want to make a guess as to how in the world these bubbles got stuffed with "genetic" material?

Without Creation there can be no evolution.

Dorks.


18 posted on 09/03/2004 7:51:26 AM PDT by four more in O 4 (God Bless George Bush and God Bless YOU.)
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To: four more in O 4

So why do so many Christians have this irrational fear of evolution? That never made any sense to me.

Dorks.


19 posted on 09/03/2004 7:54:18 AM PDT by horatio
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To: VadeRetro
So what? We still don't know exactly exactly exactly how you get life from non-life.

Yes. Those Satanic, Darwinite fools know nothing. Nothing at all. They call themselves "scientists" but they are blinded by their faith. Until they can re-create the whole universe in a lab, and then the solar system, and then the entire range of life on earth, and finally man, they haven't shown me anything. And they never will show me anything. Nothing will ever convince me that they know what they're talking about.
</flaming idiot mode>

20 posted on 09/03/2004 7:56:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (A compassionate evolutionist!)
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