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The Hobbit Hole XIV - Hill and Water Under Sky
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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

...Hill and water under sky

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: 2Jedismom; All
Time to go here too... good night all!
4,061 posted on 08/19/2004 7:57:38 PM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (I've got to admit it, Joe sure knows how to live.)
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To: 2Jedismom

I'm off too - Olympics starts up here in a few minutes.... gymnastics finals.


4,062 posted on 08/19/2004 7:57:39 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

news announcement

This morning, from a cave somewhere in Pakistan, Taliban Minister of
Migration, Mohammed Omar, warned the United States that if military action
against Iraq continues, Taliban authorities will cut off America's supply of
convenience store managers.


4,063 posted on 08/19/2004 8:03:03 PM PDT by msdrby (Great things come at great cost. - John Nash)
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To: Ramius; ExGeeEye

"Ramen! Food of the Gods it is!"

Argh! I'm having Ramen flashbacks! I used to live on that stuff for lunch at work--microwaved Ramen noodle cups. . .


4,064 posted on 08/19/2004 8:05:34 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: 2Jedismom

Yah. I think so. Sounds like they changed their internal DNS records and naming of servers and such. That's why the thing that worked before (just pointing to the top level domain name instead of a particular server address) worked before but suddenly stopped working.

DNS (Domain Name Service) is a frequent culprit in ISP troubles. It is really easy to booger up, and it takes literally *forever* to fix. It's hard to explain... but it's like this...

DNS is the stuff that converts a name (like "www.freerepublic.com" into a number... the actual IP address of the machine that is supposed to respond to the request. In that case... FR is 209.157.64.200.

My company controls DNS for our domain. In this sense we are our own ISP and we connect to AT&T's internet backbone with a pair of T3's (its not important what those are). Any time we add or remove a server (like www. or webmail. or pop. or whatever) in our domain we have to make the corresponding change to our DNS servers, so that people using web browsers can find those machines when they type it in. DNS changes take time to filter out to all of the millions of DNS servers around the Internet.

In some ways it's a half-life sort of model. Every 24 hours, about half of the remaining servers on the Internet will finally get the new information. In the first day, half the internet gets it... in the second day half of the remainder gets it, in the third day half of the remainder gets it... and so on and so on... until about two weeks later enough of the internet has gotten updated with the latest data to call it "finished".

It works most of the time, but if you mess it up it can take a week or more to really fix it.


4,065 posted on 08/19/2004 8:07:32 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: Ramius

"DNS is the stuff that converts a name (like "www.freerepublic.com" into a number... the actual IP address of the machine that is supposed to respond to the request."

Now Al Gore invented that, right? :)


4,066 posted on 08/19/2004 8:16:53 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Dude, if they've got a microwave, you can bring leftovers...

Me, I'm taking the rest of the fajitas tomorrow. That makes three meals. Tomorrow being Friday, I'm going to try a pizza-substitute for dinner. Next week I'm going to experiment with chicken wraps for lunch - I should be able to eat those on the go between classes.

Cooking is really no more work than eating out, or eating ramen. It takes a little more thought once every few weeks, and I prep my meat when I buy it (chop it into pieces for stir fry, freeze in one-meal-sized portions). Most of my dinners take 10 minutes, start to table.


4,067 posted on 08/19/2004 8:26:04 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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To: Ramius

I remember a time when for about three days, nobody could get to FR except with the IP address...


4,068 posted on 08/19/2004 8:27:18 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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To: JenB

That was exactly the problem... FR's DNS info got muffed up somehow, and it took some days for the fix to filter out around the various name servers on the net.


4,069 posted on 08/19/2004 8:31:51 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: Ramius

Yep, I remember that. DNS ain't fun.

Oooh, you know what's not fun? Installing anything on Unix. I did that for the first time yesterday. I don't CARE how great an operating system it is, anything that won't automatically read a cd when you put it in the drive sucks. And that's the technical term.

However, I installed the software properly, and only one guy got his data hosed, and that was my boss's fault anyway.


4,070 posted on 08/19/2004 8:34:33 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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To: HairOfTheDog

I would like to be on the Hobbithole ping list.

Thank you.


4,071 posted on 08/19/2004 8:35:20 PM PDT by Narvinye
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To: Fedora

Yah... and I invented the "gin and tonic". (note: the second best drink in the universe next to the Pan-Galactic Gargleblaster, as noted in the HitchHiker's Guide by Ford Prefect).


4,072 posted on 08/19/2004 8:38:41 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: JenB

"Dude, if they've got a microwave, you can bring leftovers..."

Yeah, but back then I didn't know how to make leftovers :) At that time my cooking repertoire consisted of scrambled eggs, mashed potatoes, and rice mix. Hence, the Ramen Noodle Diet Plan, and the closely related Campbell's Microwavable Soup Diet Plan. . .

What do you use for a pizza substitute?


4,073 posted on 08/19/2004 8:39:07 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Ramius

I think the gin and tonic was invented to help people get through Al Gore's speeches. . .


4,074 posted on 08/19/2004 8:40:39 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: RosieCotton
I'm a Sayers mystery fan, too, and I'm baffled by the racism idea. I can't think of anything blatant. Granted, my memory is terrible, but..

Well, I thought what my friend said was rather baffling too...especially since I had been so moved by her book "The Mind of the Maker". I couldnt imagine anyone who wrote things like that to go on and write something that was racist, unless that was a particular trait she WANTED for one of her characters.

The person I am talking about is of a rather peculiar nature herself, so I didnt take her too seriously.

4,075 posted on 08/19/2004 8:47:52 PM PDT by Alkhin (just another one of my fly-bys...he thinks I need keeping in order.)
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To: Narvinye
Hi Narvinye! If you dont get anything from us, then be sure to ping either ecurbh or HairOfTheDog tomorrow. Hair is usually the one who keeps up with things, and she is married to ecurbh.

Welcome to the Hobbit Hole! Be sure to tell us more about yourself!

4,076 posted on 08/19/2004 8:50:29 PM PDT by Alkhin (just another one of my fly-bys...he thinks I need keeping in order.)
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To: JenB

Unix is for dweebs. Just don't tell them that. Sure, it's real nice for apps that just run and run and don't have any mods to the OS or the app. Runs just fine. I've got some Unix boxes and some Linux boxes doing some special-purpose stuff. They run great, but so does everything else. But would I drop a Linux OS onto a laptop for somebody that travels and has to remote connect to the company every day? Hell no...

But of course the same is true of *any* OS. Hell... DOS 5 ran perfectly well too, as long as you didn't try to do anything complicated with it.

What really fun, after the *nix dweebies get through trashing MS for bug fixes... is to remind them that *nix patches are now numbered at somewhere around 30,000 plus. The bug fixes for *nix are still an order of magnitude greater than the bug fixes for any MS OS.

Not that it will really matter...


4,077 posted on 08/19/2004 8:50:55 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: Narvinye

Welcome to the Hobbit Hole! :-)


4,078 posted on 08/19/2004 8:52:15 PM PDT by Ramius (The pieces are moving. We come to it at last. The great battle of our time.)
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To: Alkhin

Hey, Alkhin :) What's new today?


4,079 posted on 08/19/2004 9:00:22 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I don't know yet... my plan is, take one of the low-carb tortillas and fry it, just a bit, so it's less floppy but not crunchy. Add pepperoni and cheese and broil it; then slice it and pretend it's pizza.

It may work.


4,080 posted on 08/19/2004 9:00:30 PM PDT by JenB (Hobbit Holers are the Nicest People :-))
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