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Posted on 08/05/2004 5:47:31 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
Eleventh Thread: Wedding Edition: The Hobbit Hole XI - No One Admitted Except on Wedding Business!
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"What chart did you use?"
Hmmm--I've never tried explaining this to anyone else so I'm not sure if this will make sense, but here goes:
The chart is based on a model of personality I'm applying. Basically, it breaks the personality down into five functions of consciousness which when applied to external data generate corresponding habits or "patterns of experience". The functions/patterns are (to simplify, since there can be numerous permutations combining these):
--Biological: habitual patterns of experience with a primarily biological orientation, such as eating, sleeping, etc.
--Aesthetic: recreational patterns
--Intellectual: cognitive patterns relating to intellectual interests
--Moral: patterns of moral decision-making
--Affective: emotional patterns; the model includes religious feelings as a subset of these so this also encompasses the affective side of religious experience
Within each pattern there are subdivisions based on commonly-experienced objects/actions encompassed by that pattern. So for instance my aesthetic pattern would include watching certain types of TV shows, reading certain types of books, etc. If you walk yourself mentally through the course of a typical day/week, you can identify some specific habitual patterns.
These patterns can be further organized into polar oppositions within a given category and conflicts therein. So for instance within the affective category you might divide positive emotions like love from negative emotions like anger. You can also have oppositions/conflicts between categories--for instance affective feelings and intellectual convictions might find themselves at odds over certain issues.
Each pattern tends to have its own internal "voice" associated with it, which can be analyzed in terms of its auditory components--loud or soft, fast or slow, high-pitched or low-pitched etc.--and its verbal characteristics, i.e., characteristic vocabulary, speech patterns, etc.
The different voice patterns, then, can be used to generate corresponding characters.
This is an abstract way of explaining something I tend to do very spontaneously in actual application. Basically, I just let the different "voices" express themselves by imagining them speaking in a given situation, and the words tend to spring naturally from that.
You can also apply the above framework to analyze the external voices of other people and create characters from them as well.
Well, that's a hastily- and probably poorly-worded summary, but I hope that at least made a little sense without being excessively boring--LOL!
"Got Forbidden Planet too and it was a thumbs down, though...too much kissin' going on!"
Doh!--I forgot there was kissin'! I guess if I was that age I'd probably find that excessive, too. I was thinking more that they'd like the robot and special effects and stuff.
Glad they liked "Earth vs. the Flying Saucers" at least! Hmm, I may have to watch that again myself now, LOL! What's next on their viewing list?
Some of the later episodes are produced by animating producer Ralph Bakshi (FRITZ THE CAT, AMERICAN POP, LORD OF THE RINGS) and these stories are a little darker in mood and animation style which includes Spider-Man's origin story.
ROFL! When I was a kid me and my friends always used to make fun of how the later episodes--in contrast to the early ones which followed the comic very closely--would use way too much stock footage and have goofy plots that didn't have anything to do with the original Spiderman series. Well--now I know why!--ROFLMHO! Is it Ralph Bakshi's mission in life to taint everything cool?!!!
Hmmm... yeah, maybe, but I expect a little "casual" racism in books that old. Do you know what I mean? Attitudes that we would find disgraceful just were the way people were.
I don't remember many non-white characters in her mystery novels, though. And she was an acquantaince of Lewis and Tolkien so she can't have been all bad.
Wow, very cool. Is it legit? 52 episodes is very generous.
Oh, wow, I didn't know she knew Tolkien and Lewis!
Yep, it's legit! My brother's the DVD collector in the family so he tends to find stuff like this.
Hmmm, I see there's a "Super Friends" one, too. . .That was the second cartoon I ever watched, after "Speed Racer".
I'm a Sayers mystery fan, too, and I'm baffled by the racism idea. I can't think of anything blatant. Granted, my memory is terrible, but...
The one thing I do remember being bothered by was that some of her very earliest books (before she converted) have a bit of an amoral flavor. For example, there's a bad guy who's going to be put to death eventually for his crime, and one of her main characters more or less says "I'll look the other way if you decide to take the easy way out".
But other than that...I dunno what your friend could have been referring to.
Shows like that are the reason I had such trouble realizing cartoons were for grown-ups, too...
Just kidding. But my generation prefers shows like "Animaniacs" and "Pinky and the Brain". Poking fun at the world is more our style, than saving it.
Ooops! Laundry needs to get changed over...
I love Pinky and the Brain.
And Earthworm Jim, too.
I've only seen a few episodes of Animaniacs, though.
But all of these have humor that kids don't catch. They're entertaining for kids...but there's another level, too.
"Shows like that are the reason I had such trouble realizing cartoons were for grown-ups, too..."
Hey! :) Actually Spider-Man was pretty popular on college campuses at the time that show came out. So was Batman in his campy 60s incarnation. Of course I wasn't born yet so I didn't watch either show at that time; I caught them in syndication years later.
I dunno if "Animaniacs"/"Pinky" is a generational thing, 'cause when that came out I and a lot of my friends watched that, too. There was definitely a trend towards shows with that style of humor in the 90s, I'd concede--I remember talking about that with a friend who observed the same thing. However I think that trend has always run alongside superhero cartoons' popularity rather than against it. If you go through Cartoon Network or Boomerang's listings, it's evident from the proportion of time slots that superhero cartoons are one of the most popular programming items--even reruns of old ones that aren't as "adult" as the newer ones seem to get a lot of air time. I think people who watch those tend to watch "Animaniacs" and vice versa.
"But all of these have humor that kids don't catch. They're entertaining for kids...but there's another level, too."
Exactly!--I've found the Warner Brothers cartoons actually seem even funnier to me now that I catch the adult level of humor. But I still liked the kids' level when I was a kid. "Sesame Street" has that quality to an extent, too.
Hmmm--trying to remember some "Animaniacs" episodes now. . .One of my favorites was when the Animaniacs fought Barney the Dinosaur and taught him "The Anvil Song" :) I also liked this one with a German wienerschnitzel guy that had a silly song that went with it:
Ist das nicht un piece of bread?
Ja, das ist un piece of bread!
Does it fit in Wacko's head?
Yes, it fits in Wacko's head!
Piece of bread
Wacko's head
[Something something] schnitzelbach. . .
"They're Pinky and the Brain, they're Pinky and the Brain, One is a genius, the other's insane, They're laboratory mice, their genes have been spliced, they're dinky, they're Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain"...
Changed over laundry, put away the leftovers from lunch (fajitas! Found a really good fairly low-carb tortilla. It's not as chewy as some I've had, which is good, but it's higher in carb), scrubbed the kitchen, swept the floor, including the carpet in places where I could see dirt.
I've never seen Earthworm Jim, but Pinky and the Brain seem to be almost universally popular among people between 18 and 30. If they'll admit they used to watch cartoons, anyway.
"Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky?"
"Narf! I think so, Brain--but this time, can I wear the tutu?"
"Pinky, if I could reach you, I would hurt you."
Good afternoon everyone!
OK - winmag, I'm thrilled to have the knife I have, but if the good ones are in short supply and there was a 'second', I'd gladly trade if postage weren't the reason not to.
ecurbh and I aren't familiar enough with the companies that should now be getting credit.... if you want to give details about what should be taken out or put in, let us know.
We do have a comments page.... any emails or posts that should be there and aren't, repost them here for ecurbh and he'll load them!
http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/troops/testimonials.htm
ecurbh is also looking into putting a guestbook on the site.
I'll send another. If both show up, I'm sure she can find a deserving troop for the second one.
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