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Witnesses said a woman wearing a nightgown and slippers was holding the baby by her ankles Friday morning and chanting: "Where's my TV? Where's my phone? Where's my peace? Where's my nice home? Where's my justice?"

Definitely a liberal, blaming her baby for her misfortune. I just cannot understand even a crazy person doing this.

1 posted on 05/28/2004 7:42:57 PM PDT by I_saw_the_light
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To: I_saw_the_light

Calling a crisis line - perfect cover for an infant murder.


2 posted on 05/28/2004 7:45:08 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: I_saw_the_light

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTH is going ON?


3 posted on 05/28/2004 7:46:48 PM PDT by cgk (Social Security: America's only legal Pyramid Scheme.)
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To: I_saw_the_light

I'm sorry, if someone comes to me and asks me to take their baby because THEY think they are a bad mother, I am not going to talk them out of it.


5 posted on 05/28/2004 7:50:07 PM PDT by cgk (Social Security: America's only legal Pyramid Scheme.)
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To: I_saw_the_light

The only good thing in this story is that at least someone tried to stop her when they witnessed her hurting the baby instead of sitting there watching. Everything else is a total mess.


7 posted on 05/28/2004 7:53:52 PM PDT by I_saw_the_light ("George Bush makes me proud to be an American"-Thomas Hamill)
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To: I_saw_the_light

Welcome to the outcome of the liberal-designed community based mental health care.

Those b-----ds have caused untold suffereing.


11 posted on 05/28/2004 7:58:34 PM PDT by mlmr (Poisoning pigeons in the Park............)
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To: I_saw_the_light; shaggy eel; Indie; longtermmemmory; Nick Danger

PING!



This one was also moved to "chat," but we'll put it into broader news dissemination.
12 posted on 05/28/2004 8:02:00 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: I_saw_the_light

This sort of thing happens almost daily. It's spiked/filtered by both liberal and conservative social interest media.


13 posted on 05/28/2004 8:05:08 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: I_saw_the_light; shaggy eel; Indie; longtermmemmory; Nick Danger

Okay. It's out beyond the AP, already. Save the links and further disseminate them.

Mother Charged in Death of Baby (Fox News)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121277,00.html

Mother held in baby's killing (Newsday)
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/wire/sns-ap-baby-killed,0,5021457.story?coll=sns-ap-nation-headlines

Mother Accused of Killing Baby Sought Aid (Guardian)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-4144306,00.html

NY mother accused of killing baby had asked for help (Fresno Bee)
http://www.fresnobee.com/24hour/nation/story/1403003p-8680732c.html

Mother accused of gruesome killing of baby (Team 4 News)
http://www.team4news.com/Global/story.asp?S=1904935


18 posted on 05/28/2004 8:23:44 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: I_saw_the_light; cgk

Oops. It was obviously moved to chat, because it was posted at least a couple of times before this instance. That often happens when several posters are simultaneously editing HTML for their posts.


20 posted on 05/28/2004 8:52:13 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: I_saw_the_light
Part of what I think is Wrong Today is this incredibly strong beam of bummers that is focused on us every day. In any country with 300 million people, we're gonna get some number of nuts, and one or two of them are going to go off every single day, rain or shine. Lord knows what they are going to do... smash babies' heads, drown 5-year-olds, decapitate kids, set fire to puppies... it's just one damned thing after another.

If it weren't for the flush toilets, I'd almost rather go back to the 17th century, where you might hear about one of these, over in another village, once in your life. Instead we have "news media" now that make sure we know about every bummer from around the world, 24-by-7.

I could've gone my whole life without knowing about this. Wouldn't have hurt me a bit.

25 posted on 05/28/2004 9:26:56 PM PDT by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: I_saw_the_light
AP is not on the MUST EXCERPT list (yet).

What a horrible thing this woman did.


Mother Accused of Killing Baby Sought Aid

Fri May 28, 9:55 PM ET
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By CAROLYN THOMPSON, Associated Press Writer

BUFFALO, N.Y. - Horrified motorists sprang from their cars Friday to stop a woman who was repeatedly slamming her 7-month-old daughter onto a concrete sidewalk, police said. The baby later died of massive head trauma.

 

Kirsten Vanderlinde, 36, who receives mental health care as an outpatient, was charged with second-degree murder in the death of Melissa Vanderlinde-Berst.

Police had checked on Vanderlinde twice shortly before the attack. A neighbor said she had called a crisis intervention center two days earlier, after Vanderlinde, fearing she was a bad mother, asked her to take custody of the child.

But the neighbor, Millicent Turrentine, said she never thought Vanderlinde would hurt Melissa. "She's never acted anything but loving to the baby," she said.

Witnesses said a woman wearing a nightgown and slippers was holding the baby by her ankles Friday morning and chanting: "Where's my TV? Where's my phone? Where's my peace? Where's my nice home? Where's my justice?"

"She was viciously swinging the baby and smashing the baby into the ground," police Capt. Mark Morgan said. "I don't even like saying it ... because it's so hard to think of."

A man ran to the woman and wrested the baby from her arms. Police arrived and tackled Vanderlinde.

Vanderlinde allegedly killed the baby just outside her apartment building, minutes after an officer checked on her at the request of another officer, who had driven her home after finding her walking with the baby shortly after 6 a.m.

Morgan said the two police officers who encountered Vanderlinde earlier in the morning had concluded the baby was not in danger.

"The baby was fine. The house was fine. The mother said 'I'm fine,'" he said. "Obviously, it is unusual for someone to be walking around with a baby at six o'clock but unfortunately it's not against the law."

On Wednesday, Vanderlinde asked Turrentine to take custody of Melissa. The late-night request prompted Turrentine to call a Crisis Services, a private, nonprofit crisis intervention center.

"I felt uneasy," said Turrentine. "I said `I think the mom is stressed out. I don't think she can hack it.'

"It broke my heart today," Turrentine said in her living room overlooking the sidewalk where the attack occurred. "I hate that I just didn't take the baby from her."

A spokeswoman for Crisis Services declined to comment, citing a policy of confidentiality. Kevin Helfer, commissioner of the county's social services agency, said his agency had not been contacted.


28 posted on 05/29/2004 4:29:34 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: I_saw_the_light
Mommy
31 posted on 05/29/2004 9:35:46 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer (We will not tire, we will not falter, and we will not fail.)
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To: I_saw_the_light

Who say's abortion has no effect on society ?


32 posted on 05/29/2004 10:57:49 AM PDT by John Lenin
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