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Study: Universe lifeless after Big Bang
AP | 1/07/04 | PAUL RECER

Posted on 01/07/2004 2:10:38 AM PST by kattracks

ATLANTA (AP) — The first stars after the Big Bang were immense, superhot giants that lived briefly and then exploded as brilliant supernovae, but they seeded the universe with basic elements that were the building blocks for the sun and the Earth, and for life itself, according to a new study.

Current theory holds that the universe began with the Big Bang, an event that caused space to expand in a fraction of a second from a tiny speck to an immensity bathed in heat and radiation. It took an estimated 300 million years for the universe to cool and for the first stars to form from hydrogen and helium.

But those were far different from the Earth's star, the sun, and most other stars in the universe now.

"The stars were simple, pure hydrogen and helium," said Volker Bromm, an astronomer for the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. And the universe was "smooth and boring." The vital ingredients that eventually turned the universe into a complex and lively place did not then exist.

Bromm and Abraham Loeb, also of Harvard-Smithsonian, used supercomputers to model the cycles of star formation that occurred after the Big Bang. They reported their findings Tuesday at the national meeting of the American Astronomical Society.

Those early stars were immense, extremely hot and very short-lived. After just a few million years, they collapsed and exploded as supernovae.

In that violence were created the heavier elements "that completely changed the universe," said Bromm. Elements from oxygen to carbon to iron were blasted into space where they eventually became part of a new generation of stars.

The next generation of stars were rich in carbon and oxygen, but had little iron. These stars shone longer than the first generation, but spent a long, lonely existence, with no planets.

"These stars were like the sun, but a very lonely sun," said Bromm. There was still not enough heavy metals to form planets, he said, and those stars "would live and die in solitude."

Supernovae continued to explode, seeding the universe with more and more heavy metals. Eventually, there were enough of these metals to create long-lived stars and for planets to accrete into their orbits. On at least one planet, the Earth, all the ingredients came together in the right place and time for life to evolve.

"The window for life opened sometime between 500 and 2 billion years after Big Bang," Loeb said in a statement.

Precisely when conditions were right for planets is still a mystery, Bromm said.

"The threshold for planet formation is still a question and we don't know the answer as yet," he said.

But what is clear, said Bromm, is the role those very early stars played in the universe of today.

"We owe our existence in a very direct way to all the stars whose life and death preceded the formation of our sun," he said. "And this process started right after the Big Bang with the very first stars."

The solar system may not be the only place it happened. More than 100 extra-solar planets — planets orbiting stars other than the sun — have been discovered. All of these planets orbit stars that are rich in heavy metals, supporting the idea that stars with heavy elements are more likely to have families of planets.



TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
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1 posted on 01/07/2004 2:10:38 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
When they dig up the video of this, I'll believe it...
2 posted on 01/07/2004 6:25:36 AM PST by JustPlainJoe
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To: kattracks
YEC INTREP - NOT!
3 posted on 01/07/2004 7:59:13 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: PatrickHenry
Ping.
4 posted on 01/07/2004 9:07:11 AM PST by balrog666 (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.)
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To: *crevo_list; VadeRetro; jennyp; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Physicist; LogicWings; ...
PING. [This ping list is for the evolution side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. FReepmail me to be added or dropped.]
6 posted on 01/07/2004 11:59:52 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: LAman
Where did the tiny speck come from? Where did the heat and radiation come from? What caused the spark that set this big bang off?

While we're doing the journalistic Ws: who or what created the Creator?

7 posted on 01/07/2004 12:03:03 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: kattracks
"Universe lifeless after Big Bang"

If the Universe was lifeless where did all those amoeba's who became ME come from????????????

Daddy? Daddy? Anyone? Anyone?

8 posted on 01/07/2004 12:13:15 PM PST by keithtoo (DEAN - He's Dukaki-riffic!!!! - He's McGovern-ous!!! - He's Mondale-agorical!!!)
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To: LAman
It takes a lot more faith to believe in something as utterly stupid as evolution, than it does to believe in a Creator.

Did Darwin write about the Big Bang?

9 posted on 01/07/2004 12:14:20 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the ping!
11 posted on 01/07/2004 12:28:48 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: kattracks
Good thing it was lifeless. Otherwise we'd all be deaf.
12 posted on 01/07/2004 12:28:48 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: LAman
It takes a lot more faith to believe in something as utterly stupid as evolution, than it does to believe in a Creator.

Only a Creationist would think of cosmology as a subset of biology.

13 posted on 01/07/2004 12:30:58 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: kattracks
This is news? I thought it was well established that the "heavy" elements were created by the initial round of supernovae. Or am I missing something?

MD
15 posted on 01/07/2004 12:32:50 PM PST by MikeD (Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!)
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To: LAman
There's no mention of evolution here.
16 posted on 01/07/2004 12:33:18 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: LAman
Man of course created time

Behind all is Truth: the infinite, the timeless, eternity. Then Man made an observation of fact and time began. Man did not create time. Fact is an attribute of time. Man did not create fact, Man observed fact. God is Truth: timeless, eternal. A fact in Time cannot verify Truth. Observation cannot verify Truth. Man cannot verify Truth.

17 posted on 01/07/2004 12:36:36 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: LAman
Evolutionist believe in the concept of something from nothing.

Wrong. Please check your definitions. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. Repeat. EVOLUTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGIN OF LIFE! That includes abiogenesis.

Why is that so hard to grasp?

18 posted on 01/07/2004 12:39:37 PM PST by Shryke
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To: LAman
Fact is though, most "Big Bang" believers support the theory of evolution.

Most people with some education accept evolution as the source of the diversity of life.

This in itself is a contradiction if you read above.

Meaning your post 5? "Where did the tiny speck come from? Where did the heat and radiation come from?"

The total energy of the universe is thought to be about zero even now. So it may be something of a free lunch, or not. We don't have many examples of the formation of a universe, and the one we do have was a long time ago. At any rate, cosmology has very little to do with evolution.

Evolutionist believe in the concept of something from nothing.

There's no evidence that Darwin did.

19 posted on 01/07/2004 12:43:19 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Shryke
Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life.

Good point.

20 posted on 01/07/2004 12:52:35 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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