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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat
Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

Posted on 11/03/2003 9:17:27 AM PST by tubavil

Edited on 01/26/2004 3:58:09 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I wonder if that had anything to do with the Underground Railroad? I know that runaway slaves came up from PA through Cortland County, north of Binghamton....there are many old homes in Homer and Cortland with secret rooms for the slaves to hide.....
6,141 posted on 01/04/2004 7:50:01 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: texasbluebell
I read the link, and my first thought is that if there was a problem during the taxi, then why leave the ground -- unless the problem was human rather than mechanical.
6,142 posted on 01/04/2004 7:50:30 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: nicmarlo
The tunnels may have nothing to do with the underground railroad and everything to do with bootlegging during prohibition. Many of the cities along the Hudson River, including Troy, Albany, Hudson, and Poughkeepsie, have or had tunnels running down hill to the riverfront, where the bootleg was loaded on to barges destined for bigger cities.

BTW, so I don't have to read the last 1500 posts or so, what's with the fixation on tunnels?

6,143 posted on 01/04/2004 7:54:39 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: nicmarlo
As a kid, we were told that the undergound part of the railroad referred to secrecy, not tunnels, but who knows.

Always found the subject fascinating, as we had a secret room in our house from then, and I have one in my present home. Nice stone chamber behind the base of the chimney in the basement.
6,144 posted on 01/04/2004 7:56:46 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: Calpernia
Interesting links--just wonder if the now publicized bunker at The Greenbrier resort in WV is still being maintained on some sort of stand by status for defense. Even though the resort offers public tours of the facility on ocassion, several of the persons who ran the facility under the guise of Forsythe and Associates still live in the Greenbrier Valley and there appears to be no local knowledge that the facility has been gutted.

I also acknowledge everyone's time and devotion to this ongoing thread-much thought and hard work is evident.
6,145 posted on 01/04/2004 7:56:49 AM PST by buckalfa
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To: Labyrinthos
Hmm, now I'm wondering if maybe the problem is actually known, that it _was_ a "human" problem, but we simply aren't getting that information out of them.

That actually makes more sense in light of these phone calls, the woman says there's a problem, maybe no time to explain, has to get off phone quickly, then calls back just as quickly while someone is standing in the aisles screaming next to her.

Someone earlier remarked on that image that came out a day or 2 ago, of the bloody fist rising out of the Red Sea, and saying that's right where this plane went down. Maybe it really was a call to action after all.
6,146 posted on 01/04/2004 7:58:33 AM PST by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell
I'd like to see the photo if someone knows the post number. I also recall reading somewhere in this thread that Blair was in or near Eygpt at the time of the crash.
6,147 posted on 01/04/2004 8:00:50 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos
Thanks for the added info on tunnels re bootlegging...you're probably right.

re "fixation on tunnels".....I haven't been able to keep up with this ever-growing thread....however, the first I saw anything about tunnels had to do with tunnels found underneath where the OKC bomb occurred....someone posted that the immigrant Chinese were believed the builders of such, and until it was discovered, it had been talked about as a myth.....when it was discovered, they found Chinese inscriptions on the walls, a room with Buddha and peeling gold-leaf....etc. It is currently used by folks, according to what I read......(gosh, I can't remember how far back that was posted, so the tunnel issue must have come up even before that....). Perhaps a FReeper who's been more involved in this thread can help you out...I only manage to check in here sporadically....sorry Labyrinthos.
6,148 posted on 01/04/2004 8:01:18 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: hummingbird
"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31

http://www.submission.org/why-19.html

6,150 posted on 01/04/2004 8:02:10 AM PST by nwctwx
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
As a kid, we were told that the undergound part of the railroad referred to secrecy, not tunnels, but who knows.

Oh, I know....I just thought, since there were hidden rooms...why not hidden "roads" too? : )

6,151 posted on 01/04/2004 8:03:00 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: JustPiper
Back in the 80's, Mt. Weather used to contain the US Army Corps of Engineers, Middle East Division (Rear). Along with all those underground bunkers and such. Nothing strategic.

Used to be some good deer hunting up that way.

6,152 posted on 01/04/2004 8:05:14 AM PST by ßuddaßudd
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To: nicmarlo
Way back in this thread there are references to tunnels in the south and it sounds like they may have been the starting point of the UG RR.

When I was a kid the teachers gave us a great deal of local history. Locally, there were no tunnels.

Now, they don't have time for history, never mind local stuff. Too busy teaching islam and gay lifestyles and diversatia.

6,153 posted on 01/04/2004 8:07:22 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: hummingbird; Calpernia; JustPiper
" I remember Farakhan (sic?) making a speech with numbers and everything coming back to 19"

Here's an old thread on Jihadis in the Hood

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/776834/posts
6,154 posted on 01/04/2004 8:08:35 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Now, they don't have time for history, never mind local stuff. Too busy teaching islam and gay lifestyles and diversatia.

They don't have time to teach spelling, math, or reading, either.

6,155 posted on 01/04/2004 8:11:51 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: All
I have been reading this thread throught out the days and I just remembered reading about the dude in the beginning of this.

Did he mention that attacts would start in London and then they would start here? Didn't we just stop a potential attact in London two days ago?????

Need to back track and find that and read again
6,156 posted on 01/04/2004 8:12:25 AM PST by ezo4
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To: hummingbird
"I'm wondering if there is any jello in the refrigerator!"

That could get you transferred to the mad cow threads,lol.
6,157 posted on 01/04/2004 8:13:41 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...gelatin made from bones and scrap and all that)
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To: hummingbird
Saudis link al-Qaeda to attacks May, 2003

Bremer: U.S. Holding 19 Al Qaeda Suspects in Iraq - Sept, 2003

There are more articles alluding to 19, These are some I have bookmarked. It would seem that 19 is the number for a "cell." Likely based off the verse I posted. Also related to:

Number 19 is the numerical value of the word "ONE" in all the scriptural languages, Aramaic, Hebrew, and Arabic "one" cell = 19

6,158 posted on 01/04/2004 8:16:00 AM PST by nwctwx
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To: hummingbird
"...the division of the three main power grids in the contiguous United States..."

That's pretty much it, but, there *are* even a couple of interconnections (lines or tie lines) between those roughly defined Interconnection or 'grids' as well nowadays - even between that formerly isolated 'island' of Texas and the Eastern Interconnection.

(Cites, references available if need be.)

6,159 posted on 01/04/2004 8:18:08 AM PST by _Jim ( <--- Ann Coulter speaks on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: JustPiper
Hey I eat my frozen malteds while I post ;)

....mmmmmmmmm.....frozen malteds.....

Frozen grapes are good, too!
6,160 posted on 01/04/2004 8:18:16 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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