Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[tubavil]

Monday, November 3, 2003

A new message was posted in the last few hours by the Jeddah-based al-Qaeda-linked Al-Islah (Reform) society calling on Muslims to flee New York, Washington and Los Angeles in advance of major al Qaeda attacks in those cities. This is revealed by DEBKAfile.

The message accuses the United States of predetermining its end (doom) by its policies. ?The Jews rule the Pentagon by remote control and (are the cause) of Muslims being killed in every corner of the world. The United States should therefore expect more blows.?

The message is signed on behalf of the al Bayan (The Threat) movement by ?your warrior brother, Abul Hassan al Khadrami?.

Our Muslim expert identifies the name of the signatory as belonging to a Yemeni from Hadhrameuth, the Bin Ladens? place of origin where Osama enjoys substantial tribal support.

DEBKAfile?s counter-terror sources stress that warnings appearing on these forums are taken both very seriously and with caution by the intelligence services keeping track of the terrorist network?s electronic traffic.

Last November, Jeddah-based fundamentalist forums addressed a message to an Al Qaeda member, saying whoever understands ? understands; whoever knows, knows, but we are marching towards an operation that will take us to Paradise. Three days later, the Mombasa Paradise hotel was blown up killing 12 Kenyans and 3 Israelis and a failed shoulder-launched Strela anti-air missile missed an Israeli airliner at Mombasa airport.

Link to Thread 2

[hummingbird]

Can you direct me to the significance of "19" post?

The number "19" has some sort of significance to the jihadists. I've never understood what it was. Out of curiosity I Googled "Koran - 19" and came up with all kinds of sites. One consistency I noticed was "Koran 19:88" I found that particular one and it reads: “Those who say the Lord of mercy has begotten a Son preach a monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a Son to the merciful, when it did not become Him to beget on” Koran 19:88 If I'm not mistaken, I've seen what I have in bold text mentioned at some of these jihadist sites. It seems to be what they want to do to us. Why? Because we're Christians and believe Jesus is the Son of God. There may be more than one reason the number "19" is significant in Islam but this might explain why it's significant to the jihadists. Just one speculation among many. :-)

Thanks, radu! nwctwx also posted (#5540 on this thread)about the significance of "19" ("Welcome to Submission") and post 5732 has some links also (arghh...did not write poster's name down).

[hummingbird]

Oh yeah, I forgot to add.....good luck catching up! These folks have done an amazing job at gathering info. I check this thread EVERY day, and I STILL have trouble keeping up! LOL!!

No kidding!!! I am in awe of the posters on this thread...so much information. I feel like a preschooler trying to catch up with these guys; they are making connections & I'm wondering if there is any jello in the refrigerator! And, I come to this thread every day, too!

[radu]

I knew there had been some posts made but had noooooo idea where they were. I'd skimmed back a ways but honestly couldn't remember what pages they've been posted on. This thread is a bit overwhelming. LOL!

This page has an interesting description of what we're dealing with these days.

JIHAD Peace, but at what cost, and with who?

[hummingbird]

OK.........6,060 plus posts !.....now everyone who posted a response here send ten bucks to FR !

Deal!

[radu]

I feel like a preschooler trying to catch up with these guys; they are making connections & I'm wondering if there is any jello in the refrigerator!

Same here! But that's what I love about FR....I learn a lot.

Love your tagline. It's right on mark! LOL!
Think I'll try to cure tonight's case of insomnia and get a little sleep. Hope you get caught up before everyone wakes up and starts posting more! :-)

[jstolzen]

Unless there was a nuke aboard the plane, I cannot see how crashing a plane into a deserted Washington DC can surpass the horror of 911. I suppose there would have been other planes headed toward more crowded destinations like NYC, right?

My sentiments exactly. There sure seems to be a LOT we are not hearing about this, and I think the "woman bomber" story is cover, IMHO to prevent the sheeples from mass panic.

[Calpernia]

>>>Sauder doesn't seem covert so whats up buttercup?

It was just my opinion that Sauer's information shouldn't be out their at all. Nothing more than that. I just think this type of info should be 'not available' to our non friendly neighborhood neighbors.

[jstolzen]

why would the same group that had nukes, be trying to blow up planes by hiding plastic explosives in the body cavity of a female suicide bomber? is just doesn't connect.

Unless the story is a red herring put out to calm the sheeples (comparatively, that is - to saying they wanted to blow up the plane with a suitcase nuke)

The one thing I can't figure out is all of this "we will DESTROY XX CITY" type of hyperbole and the info we are reading in the press. I just pray that it's OUR side who's telling the truth to the public.

[hummingbird]

OK, that is creepy. Let's examine. Uniform says Brown. Hair is obviously a woman. Where did you find this? Anyone have any theories on meaning?

Name is Brown;wig-hair is Blond;Red Star of David on forehead? Were any of the US POWs named Brown? During beginning of Iraqi war, US soldiers found copies of US uniforms in storage. They weren't US uniforms; there was something different about them that proved they were inauthentic. FWIW.

[hummingbird]

This page has an interesting description of what we're dealing with these days. JIHAD Peace, but at what cost, and with who?

Thanks...will check it out!

[hummingbird]

Same here! But that's what I love about FR....I learn a lot. Love your tagline. It's right on mark! LOL! Think I'll try to cure tonight's case of insomnia and get a little sleep. Hope you get caught up before everyone wakes up and starts posting more! :-)

Awareness of my ignorance grows daily as I follow this thread; but, you are right about learning a lot on FR!

Sweet Dreams, fellow insomniac and thanks for you link!

[JustPiper]

Breaking News Alert
BASRA, Iraq (AP) British Prime Minister Tony Blair says nations that develop weapons of mass destruction are "huge liability for the whole security of the world."

[hummingbird]

Just guessing about Eagle Belly but my guess is American Citizens Offspring, AKA Johnny Jihads ect..

What about those 5%'ers we heard about during the DC sniper shootings?

[hummingbird]

During the blackout, I recall a thread where someone said the US electrical grid is divided into 3 sections...East, West and Texas. Will try to locate thread...memory not all that reliable pre-caffeinated!

Haven't located the map I was looking for on FR but perhaps _Jim can help as he was on several of the Blackout Threads. I did locate a map on CNN which identifies "...the division of the three main power grids in the contiguous United States..."...the Western Interconnection, the Texas Interconnection and the Eastern Interconnection. Just a WAG on my part.

[Labyrinthos]

Oops. Excellent point. Since when do the flight attendants stand in the aisle during take-off? Hmm...

Since when do you talk on a cell phone during take-off. Maybe that's what crashed the plane.

[JustPiper]

Anyone military, what do the emblem patches mean?

[JustPiper]

And the star of David on her forehead-Israeli's and Americans

[JustPiper]

Hey I eat my frozen malteds while I post ;)

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Amazed to see this thread still going.
read several hundred posts this am.

Re: underground tunnels, about a dozen years ago I was hired to take my dogs into an abandoned slaughterhouse in Binghamton NY to hunt out a coven of self-described Satan cultists who were frightening the neighborhood and had to be evicted before the slaughterhouse could be demolished.

From the sub basement of the slaughterhouse the dogs showed me a way into an underground tunnel that went along the river, near the big mall, I think it's called the Metro center. We found them skulking in a hidden room and corralled the idiots and marched them out to the cops.

Locals told me there is an extensive system under the city, but I didn't go far because we found the pasty faced dufuses right away.

So you got tunnels in NJ, tunnels at the great lakes, tunnels under NYC. I think the tunnels in Bing were supposed to be related to the canal, but it was a while ago and I am not certain.

[texasbluebell]

I know, that had crossed my mind too, but I read on another thread that this same passenger had made 2 phone calls to her nephew, the first during the taxiing, when she said the plane was having some sort of problem, then she called him back during take-off. So it did sound as if the plane was already in trouble during the taxiing period.

I don't have a link, and who even knows if the story has much credibility to it at this point.