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To: hummingbird
"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31

http://www.submission.org/why-19.html

6,150 posted on 01/04/2004 8:02:10 AM PST by nwctwx
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To: hummingbird
Saudis link al-Qaeda to attacks May, 2003

Bremer: U.S. Holding 19 Al Qaeda Suspects in Iraq - Sept, 2003

There are more articles alluding to 19, These are some I have bookmarked. It would seem that 19 is the number for a "cell." Likely based off the verse I posted. Also related to:

Number 19 is the numerical value of the word "ONE" in all the scriptural languages, Aramaic, Hebrew, and Arabic "one" cell = 19

6,158 posted on 01/04/2004 8:16:00 AM PST by nwctwx
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To: nwctwx; JustPiper
"Over it is nineteen." " We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned THEIR NUMBER (i.e.19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers. (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4)to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say," What did God mean by this allegory ?" God thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills, None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. THIS IS A REMINDER FOR THE PEOPLE." 74:30-31 http://www.submission.org/why-19.html

I need to duct tape my head on this one to keep my brain from exploding. Do all Muslims believe this; when were these ideas constructed? Do you have a book title or any other reference to help me out on this? Does any of this have connection with Kwanza? The 5%'ers? nwctwx, thank you for guiding me here. I cannot get into the head of what these believers of 19 are all about. How did all this sneak up on us? I know US prisons have been infiltrated with NOI but I guess I have to ask again...do all Muslims subscribe to these ideas? What happened to "Religion of Peace?" Thanks for your help!
6,167 posted on 01/04/2004 8:47:44 AM PST by hummingbird ("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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