120². I wonder if the 4400 have anything to do with the 144,000.
Posted on 07/17/2026 8:33:56 AM PDT by Salman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cih-Dnvh9p0
They’re nuts.
The JWs used to say they would be the ones in heaven...till their numbers were exceeded the number in heaven the bible
This is a ~20-30 minute explanatory video by ExJW Panda Tower (a former Jehovah's Witness creator) titled something like "The Jehovah's Witness AFTERLIFE is STRANGER than you think!!".
Core SummaryThe video explains Jehovah's Witnesses' (JW) unique beliefs about death, the soul, and the afterlife, contrasting them with mainstream Christianity. Key points include:
“The Jehovah’s Witness AFTERLIFE is STRANGER than you think!!” They don’t come around here anymore. I don’t know, maybe it was something I said.
I used to keep a few Mormon books at my door and when they started talking, I would ask if I could tell them about the Prophet Joe Smith first (I ain’t a mormon but it always worked).
I had a student who was JW. Pleasant girl, always polite and helpful. Would send her to the office with the lunch count so she wasn’t in class for the Pledge.
Anyway, one weekend there’s a knock on the door and there she was with an adult with the literature. She was surprised to see me, said, “You already know why we’re here”, gave me the pamphlets and left.
Normal person to JW: “If only 144k can be saved, isn’t recruiting reducing your odds?”
There are good people in JW but the controls on them will remove all your friends and family if you leave.
Another rediculoud Cult like all the rest.
They mail them now since covid 🤣😂
Our next door neighbors in Virginia were JW.
We used to carpool with their little girls.
When their grandma died they were sad and made sure that we knew that “Grandma just died, she didn’t go to heaven.”
Every week they would have some kind of meeting at their house and the cul-de-sac would be full of parked cars, sometimes blocking our driveway.
My husband always got home late because he was commuting to the Pentagon.
His usual comment was...”I see the coven is meeting tonight”.
Also, did you know that the JW "pioneers" who come to your door have to pay, with their own money for the literature they give you?
Two Jehovah witnesses came to my door to give their spiel. I asked them, “How is one saved?” They answered, “By the life you live.” I then said, “Your denomination is based on Joel 2:32, which says;
“And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD (Jehovah) will be saved; . . ” Joel 2:32
This is repeated in the following passages;
“For whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:13
“And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Acts 2:21
Your TRUTH book quotes a passage from Acts 4, which says,
“8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them, “Rulers of the people and elders of Israel: 9 If we this day are judged for a good deed done to a helpless man, by what means he has been made well, 10 let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. 11 This is the ‘stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.’ 12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:8-12
The TRUTH book says verse 12 refers to Jesus. The leaves us with one of two conclusions:
1. There are two names by which man can be saved, or,
2. Jesus is Jehovah.
In the summer of 1981, I had to attend a training academy for 8 weeks, and my youngest son ended up staying with them while I was gone. During that stay, his father threw all of his records out, most of which I had bought for him. Thankfully, this asshat moved out of State, never told his sons, and hasn't had contact with either son for at least 30+ years. He has no idea his youngest son is a survivor of Stage 3 colon cancer.
By accident, I discovered that he was living in Arizona was years ago, when I went to my local Midas garage for the first time to have my oil changed. When they searched the database for my last name, they found his name. I told the guy that that was my ex, and asked him where the account was located, and he told me Arizona. When I searched for his name online, it showed he was the treasurer of the Jehovah Witness group he belonged to. I laughed, because when we were still married, as a teacher, he had summers off, and would work a couple of weeks for his blind step-father, so he and my ex's mother could spend time at their cottage. His step-father ran a very successful concession stand at a local hospital, and while he worked, my ex would help himself to extra money every day, over and above what his step-father was paying him. Leopards don't change their spots, so I'm wondering how much money he's helped himself to as Treasurer of his group.
Where I am, they don’t need to. I can find a couple down at the local Dunkin’ preaching JW.
I used to keep two Books of Mormon on hand, a modern version and an 1870s version, in which I highlighted all the changes made to the “most perfect book” ever written. They were a useful starting point for discussions with the tag teams of young LDS missionaries when they showed up at my door.
Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the mainstream Christian doctrine of the immortality of the soul:
1. JWs believe that humans are souls, they do not have souls. When a person dies, they cease to exist entirely.
2. They reject the concept of eternal torment in hell, interpreting “Hell” (Sheol or Hades) simply as the common grave of mankind.
3. Faithful JWs have the hope of living forever on a paradise Earth, while a select group (the 144,000) is resurrected to heaven as spirit creatures. Those who willfully oppose God or blaspheme the Holy Spirit are believed to be destroyed forever without hope of resurrection.
The video explicitly notes that Seventh-day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses share similar beliefs regarding the state of the dead:
1. Like Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists believe in “conditional immortality” (often referred to as “soul sleep”).
2. Both groups teach that the dead are unconscious and that the soul is not inherently immortal
3. Both groups also reject the traditional Christian doctrine of eternal torment in hell, viewing it as unbiblical and contrary to a loving God.
4. The video highlights that these doctrines were heavily influenced by early Adventist preachers, specifically George Storrs, who influenced Charles Taze Russell (the founder of the Watchtower movement).
5. As the video points out, these shared views are not coincidental; both movements emerged from the same 19th-century Adventist tradition (specifically the Millerite movement in the United States).
Both groups are not Christian. At least the Jehovah’s Whatnesses are open about not being Christian
120². I wonder if the 4400 have anything to do with the 144,000.
We keep adding ingredients to the big pot of ‘believers’.
It’s been overflowing with SDA folks, now we add the spices that actually come to you to try to make their point.
Thanks!
I don’t have 30+ minutes to listen this morning.
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