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Tom Smith bear researcher .44 Magnum
Self | February 16,2026 | Marktwain

Posted on 02/16/2026 4:18:16 PM PST by marktwain

Does anyone have a recollection of Tom Smith, the bear researcher, telling of a time when he and another were doing bear research and the companion shot a handgun but missed all the shots at the bear?

I have a vague recollection, but cannot find a source.

I thought it was in an interview by Tom Smith, maybe in a hunting or outdoor publication.

If anyone remembers such a thing, please reply.


TOPICS: Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: banglist; bear; handgun; smith
Help with my research is appreciated.
1 posted on 02/16/2026 4:18:16 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Mine is accurate to 100yds but probably not when being chased by a bear.


2 posted on 02/16/2026 4:30:40 PM PST by Zathras
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To: marktwain
Doing a quick read of some of Dr Tom Smith's articles, he is not a advocate of shooting bears that want to kill you.

And…”be cautious in Brown Bear country”…what ever that means in regard to personal safety.

3 posted on 02/16/2026 4:45:34 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: marktwain
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A documented anecdote that fits this description involves a 2024 bear attack in Wisconsin, where a man attempting to defend himself against a charging black bear missed with every shot in his magazine. 

The Incident: 
Context on "Emptying the Gun":
While this specific instance involved complete misses, other accounts highlight that even when shots are fired, handguns can be ineffective under extreme stress if the shooter does not hit critical areas. For example, in another case, a hunter in the Wyoming wilderness was unable to fire his Glock 10mm because it was not chambered, leading to a fatal encounter. Another incident involved a hiker who emptied a .38 revolver, hitting the bear multiple times, yet the bear still killed them. 
These stories are frequently cited by experts to emphasize that in a bear encounter, adrenaline often leads to poor accuracy, and bear spray is often more effective than handguns. 

4 posted on 02/16/2026 4:48:52 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies with Democrats.)
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To: marktwain
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5 posted on 02/16/2026 4:54:34 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Import the third world. Become the second world.)
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To: marktwain

Grok can’t find that.


6 posted on 02/16/2026 5:16:10 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Suspending my monthly donations until it becomes clear FR is run by and for conservatives.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I searched Grizzly, so may have missed the black bear reference above.


7 posted on 02/16/2026 5:17:12 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Suspending my monthly donations until it becomes clear FR is run by and for conservatives.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I tried Grok, with the same result.


8 posted on 02/16/2026 5:17:41 PM PST by marktwain (----------------------)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Black bear, per Grok:

“ No, even if the bear in question were a black bear (Ursus americanus) instead of a grizzly/brown bear, the specific anecdote you describe—someone (accompanied by, reported by, or witnessed by Dr. Tom Smith) emptying all six shots from a .44 Magnum revolver and missing every single one—does not appear in Tom Smith’s research, publications, interviews, or any associated accounts.”


9 posted on 02/16/2026 5:18:39 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Suspending my monthly donations until it becomes clear FR is run by and for conservatives.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is there specifics on the .38 special incident? I have not found it. The closest I have is an incident in New Mexico. In that case the hunter emptied his .38, probably never hit the bear, and had relatively minor puncture wounds to his foot.

The Wisconsin incident is quite a bit different than as described. Here is a link:

https://www.ammoland.com/2024/09/son-saves-fathers-life-during-bear-attack-in-wisconsin/


10 posted on 02/16/2026 5:21:22 PM PST by marktwain (----------------------)
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To: Deaf Smith

“And…”be cautious in Brown Bear country”…what ever that means in regard to personal safety.”

Loosely translated, I think it means “Don’t get kilt” . . .


11 posted on 02/16/2026 5:36:47 PM PST by MCSETots
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
These stories are frequently cited by experts to emphasize that in a bear encounter, adrenaline often leads to poor accuracy, and bear spray is often more effective than handguns.

When it comes to defense against a bear I'll put my trust in something that doesn't have "B S" for initials.

With the exception of a Big Shotgun.

12 posted on 02/16/2026 6:00:28 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (That some people find the 2nd Amendment in their way is proof of it's necessity.)
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To: marktwain

AI says he beat the bear off with his heavy pistol.


13 posted on 02/16/2026 6:14:54 PM PST by TexasGator (1.1~I11:/)
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To: marktwain

The best researcher on this subject Dean Weingarten proves handguns success. Look up his many articles or go here

https://www.google.com/search?q=dean+weingarten+bear+deterrent+findings&client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&hs=0D29&sca_esv=37a1d56e91fd2a24&sxsrf=ANbL-n7B5SZBM8_xysayx4gYDb6dAwtb9Q%3A1771328903587&udm=50&fbs=ADc_l-bZnt6jMmErT-KRarIgXyuyEbgLVbVrL19D752u5Zq1JxsknUc6k2WnAYdF3IRSWkTH3pdQosATZjd3_wJT0jcnPLAgEgAliPq41MimZlEPuL60319NVet1a-LoIdzsEe9hlVeV01TI_qi4ZnHdhUlKab2m-uClsX2tswqnN5ogcKTT0X5qpTrp2mfYB6t8—hcIAurKDoMtkpCe4-RmpnXFJzL51uP-Uav0L2wtP6Z5ceEtmM&aep=1&ntc=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiApNCwuuCSAxUjK1kFHWSgIPEQ2J8OegQIDhAE&biw=337&bih=643&dpr=2.13&mtid=ilWUacKtGs2i5NoPzJ6-yAc


14 posted on 02/17/2026 3:53:18 AM PST by Badboo (A fascist is the one who wants to take your guns. That's how it always starts.)
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To: Badboo; marktwain

Oh, I’m pretty sure that marktwain is quite familiar with Mr. Weingarten’s research.


15 posted on 02/17/2026 6:50:57 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: marktwain

Did a search as well and Timothy Treadwell came up.
He certainly missed on Many Levels!


16 posted on 02/17/2026 2:09:59 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Resist Satan's Tyranny )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I re-read the description you posted of the Wisconsin incident.

It is fairly accurate. My mistake for reading too quickly.

I have not found an incident with a .38 caliber handgun which fits the discription given.


17 posted on 02/17/2026 2:41:47 PM PST by marktwain (----------------------)
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To: Uncle Miltie; All

Found it. Obviously Grok has to be checked carefully.

From outdoorlife.com, quoting Tom Smith in 2007:

The biologists darted the grizzly from the helicopter, then landed. Approaching the bear to take blood samples, they sensed something wasn’t right. The bear moved, and moved again. Suddenly, from just 19 feet away, the bear charged the two researchers.

One biologist pulled a .44 and fired four shots at the bear, which quickly beelined for the brush. The pair ran for the safety of the helicopter cab. From the air, they noticed the bear still wandering around, so they darted it again. Upon examining the bear, they found that even at close range not a single bullet had hit the bear.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/hunting/2007/09/bear-attacks/


In an earlier article in 2003, in Outdoorlife.com, Smith is quoted in context, as he appears to be one of the researchers in the incident. That article has disappeared. Maybe it is in the archives.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/why-bears-target-hunters/


18 posted on 02/19/2026 2:12:29 PM PST by marktwain (----------------------)
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To: marktwain

“Biologists”.

Probably unfamiliar with handgun use under pressure.

Good find!


19 posted on 02/20/2026 6:54:19 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Suspending my monthly donations until it becomes clear FR is run by and for conservatives.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The Glock WAS NOT CHAMBERED - stupidity.


20 posted on 03/09/2026 6:09:09 PM PDT by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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