Posted on 05/07/2025 6:18:58 PM PDT by DoodleBob
… Kennedy’s claim about fetal debris specifically refers to the rubella component of the MMR vaccine. The rubella virus is generally grown in a human cell line known as WI-38, which was originally derived from lung tissue of a single elective abortion in the 1960s. This cell line has been used for decades, and no new fetal tissue has been used since.
Certain vaccines for other diseases, such as chickenpox, hepatitis A and rabies, have also been made by growing the viruses in fetal cells.
These cells are used not because of their origin, but because they provide a stable, safe and reliable environment for growing the attenuated virus. They serve only as a growth medium for the virus and they are not part of the final product.
You might think of the cells as virus-producing factories. Once the virus is grown, it’s extracted and purified as part of a rigorous process to meet strict safety and quality standards. What remains in the final vaccine is the virus itself and stabilising agents, but not human cells, nor fetal tissue.
So claims about “fetal debris” in the vaccine are false.
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Kennedy claimed the Mennonites’ reluctance to vaccinate stems from “religious objections” to what he described as “a lot of aborted fetus debris and DNA particles” in the MMR vaccine.
The latter claim, about the vaccine containing DNA particles, is technically true. Trace amounts of DNA fragments from the human cell lines used to produce the rubella component of the MMR vaccine may remain even after purification.
However, with this claim, there’s an implication these fragments pose a health risk. This is false.
(Excerpt) Read more at theconversation.com ...
Use the data learned from mengele torture experiments with jews. Might help us.
Use the data from cia lsd experiments and syphilis experiments on blacks.
Watch Deep Throat though we know what the woman involved went through that was not consenting.
Use child porn, enjoy yourself, make more copies...that is whst the MMR and covid vaccines are doing.
Patents kill their own kids in this country, proudly. How would we expect better. How would God not punish us for this.
Well, sometimes peoples’ fingers slip...
A forgiving girlfriend is good to find.
LOL
My daughters experienced multiple miscarriages post vaccine as did their young friends so I’m done trusting the liberal science.
Yes indeed. The quantum theory is a most amazing thing. The dual nature of light, and all that.
The great breakthrough in science that I was referring to was the freedom question “settled science”. Had that not occurred, Galileo couldn’t have challenged Aristotle. Einstein couldn’t have challenged Newton. Etc.
Unfortunately, in many respects we’re back to the bad old days. Al Gore now tells us Climate Change is “settled science”. Question that, and you’ll be shouted down.
“which was originally derived from lung tissue of a single elective abortion in the 1960s.” OH ok, so it’s cool only one human baby slaughtered to make a vaccine.
WIKI
WI-38 is a diploid human cell line composed of fibroblasts derived from lung tissue of a 3-month-gestation female fetus. The fetus came from the elective abortion of a Swedish woman in 1963.
In the early 1960s, Hayflick and his colleague Paul Moorhead at the Wistar Institute in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania discovered that when normal human cells were stored in a freezer, the cells remembered the doubling level at which they were stored and, when reconstituted, began to divide from that level to roughly 50 total doublings (for cells derived from fetal tissue).
Hayflick’s discovery later contributed to the determination of the biological roles of telomeres. Hayflick claimed that the finite capacity of normal human cells to replicate was an expression of aging or senescence at the cellular level.
Hayflick also discovered that if cells were properly stored in a freezer, cells would remain viable and that an enormous number of cells could be produced from a single starting culture. One of the cell strains that Hayflick isolated, which he named WI-38, was found to be free of contaminating viruses, unlike the primary monkey kidney cells then in use for virus vaccine production. In addition, WI-38 cells could be frozen, then thawed and exhaustively tested. These advantages led to WI-38 quickly replacing primary monkey kidney cells for human virus vaccine production.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WI-38
What do you think about ‘quantum immortality’ and ‘many worlds’?
They sort of throw a lot of issues into a different perspective...
I don’t know enough about the “quantum immortality” concept to form an opinion.
But I do believe the “many worlds” concept has merit. I taught freshman college physics for a time, and even spent part of one class discussing it.
So, yeah. Perhaps in one parallel universe the country is now having to deal with the antics of President Kamala Harris.
Ugh.
“I trust RFK Jr. Period. “
I don’t trust him, or Fauci either.
but I think he is possibly more trustworthy than the NIH, Pharma Bros and fluoride pushers
Semantic
Slack, cut some
In the beginning of the 18th century, abortion in Sweden was by practice punished by death. The death penalty was formally included in the criminal law of 1734. The law stated that a woman who drives out her foetus and the one who advises or helps are sentenced to death.
More than one hundred years later, a less severe attitude came into being. In the criminal law of 1864, the death penalty was abandoned. Still severe, the punishment was as high as six years of hard labor.
In a new law of 1921, the penalty was reduced, this time to a maximum of six months in prison.
The first law to allow abortion under certain circumstances was taken by the Swedish Parliament (Riksdagen) in 1938 and was, with a few amendments, in force during the 36 years from 1939 to 1974.
In the beginning, four medical conditions for sanction of abortion were available. These were sickness, weakness, humanitarian, and eugenic. In 1946, expected weakness was added and, in 1963, fetal damage. The conditions are formulated in the law as follows:
• Sickness: Abortion is allowed when, because of the woman’s sickness, or physical defect, the delivery of the child would involve a serious danger to her life or health;
• Weakness: Abortion is allowed when, because of the woman’s weakness, the delivery of the child would involve a serious danger to her life or health;
• Expected weakness: Abortion is allowed when, regarding the woman’s situation of living and other circumstances, it could be assumed that her bodily or mental force could seriously deteriorate by the delivery and rearing of the child;
• Humanitarian: Abortion is allowed when the pregnancy is the result of a criminal act like rape, sexual abuse, or sexual intercourse with a close relative;
• Eugenic: Abortion is allowed when it can reasonably be assumed, that the mother or the father would transfer a hereditary disposition of mental disorder, or grave disease, or severe defect of another kind to the child. Abortion according to this condition could only be granted by
MED/SOS and was not allowed, unless the woman was also sterilized;
• Risk of fetal damage: Abortion is allowed when there is reason to fear that the expected child would suffer a severe sickness or handicap because of a damage incurred in the fetal stage.
It should be noted that abortion purely on the basis of social needs like poverty, lack of housing, or unemployment, was not included in the law.
An example of differences in attitudes among the physicians is given by the 1952 Annual Meeting of the Swedish Medical Association, which among other things took up the abortion issue. The chairman ranked abortion in the same category as child murder. He and several physicians also wanted to exclude expected weakness from the law.
in 1966 in Linköping, 56% of the abortions were prescribed due to sickness and 15% due to weakness. In the city of Gävle, 5% of abortions were prescribed due to sickness and 70% due to weakness.
Finkbine was from Arizona (born in 1933) and a television actress known as Miss Cherri. She came to Sweden in August 1962 to apply for an abortion. She was then pregnant with her fifth child and had taken the sedative Thalidomide.
The physicians recommended her to try either Japan or Sweden for abortion. She attempted to go to Japan, but was denied a visa by the Japanese consul. Then, she and her husband went to Sweden. She applied for an abortion at Karolinska Hospital in Stockholm where she received treatment.
In 1963, the risk of fetal damage was explicitly added to the law. This was very likely a result of Finkbine’s visit to Sweden.
When Finkbine was granted an abortion, the news dominated the front pages of newspapers all over Europe.
https://www.su.se/polopoly_fs/1.18721.1320939636!/WP_2009_1.pdf
If I understood Kennedy’s comment, he said the Mennonites objection was the tissue of an aborted fetus.
“Here’s the science”
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I lol’d when I read that.
Preview, do some.
Contrary to the impression left by the author, errors, equipment failure, and poor quality control in vaccine production can lead to rogue viruses being introduced into a vaccine and those who are injected.
Exactly.
The author created some straw men, argued against those side issues, then ignored the real issue.
The author must be built too low, the main objection went right over his head. Or, he knows full well what he omitted.
Living cells are derived from live birthed babies whose organs are harvested. Aborted fetal tissue has never been used for anything
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