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Policy Blunders - Why The Great Depression Lasted So Long
American Institute for Economic Research ^ | 12/09/2024 | Jonathan Miltimore

Posted on 12/09/2024 8:35:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Discover more about the policies that shaped a decade of hardship... and the lessons they hold for today...

In 1940, Victor Records released the Dust Bowl Ballads, an album of songs written and performed by American folk singer Woody Guthrie. In two volumes and a dozen songs, the folk legend sang about the droughts that plagued North America in waves beginning in 1934 and ending in 1940.

“On the 14th day of April of 1935, There struck the worst of dust storms that ever filled the sky. You could see that dust storm comin’, the cloud looked deathlike black, And through our mighty nation, it left a dreadful track. From Oklahoma City to the Arizona line, Dakota and Nebraska to the lazy Rio Grande, It fell across our city like a curtain of black rolled down. We thought it was our judgment, we thought it was our doom.”

The lyrics of these tunes—those above come from “The Great Dust Storm Disaster”—reveal the psychological impact the Dust Bowl had on Americans, in no small part because it corresponded with another historical event: the Great Depression.

In her new explainer “The Economic Consequences of Populism,” historian Amity Shlaes points out that as the Great Depression dragged on, more and more Americans began to feel as if God had abandoned America. At the pulpit, pastors compared Americans to Job and to the Hebrews in the Book of Exodus confronted by locusts and plagues.

Shlaes touches on why so Americans felt as they did, noting that throughout the 1930s joblessness remained above 10 percent, while the stock market saw a 90 percent drop from its 1929 high, a peak it would not reach again until the 1950s.

As Americans endured extended economic plight, many came to believe they were experiencing the wrath of God.

One needn’t be a religious skeptic to doubt that Americans’ suffering was biblical retribution.

Today we know that even the Dust Bowl was a man-made ecological disaster, triggered by government wheat subsidies that encouraged unsustainable plowing under of erosion-resistant native plants.

And historians and economists have written extensively about what triggered the Great Depression: chief among them a lack of liquidity and the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act that restricted free trade.

Shlaes points out that far less attention has been paid to the question that should follow.

“What about the years that followed?

Why did recovery not return after five years, or after seven?

It is not, after all, a deflation shock, however sharp, that converted the initial depression, lower case, into a Great Depression, with capital letters.

It was the duration that made the Depression great.

Whether monetarist or Keynesian, economists respond to commonsense queries about the later years with a single line:

‘That is complicated.’ It is as if a sign has been placed over the period to intimidate the curious: ‘Here Be Dragons.’”

A decade of misery Americans experienced did not stem from an angry God. A careful reading of the facts of the period suggests they stemmed from bad economic policies, ones initially passed by President Hoover that grew worse under President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

In a highly readable Explainer, Shlaes illustrates the economic mistakes of the Great Depression - which famously included government slaughtering and burying 6.5 million pigs to keep prices high while millions of Americans were going hungry - were even more nonsensical than you realized.

Discover more about the policies that shaped a decade of hardship—and the lessons they hold for today.

In her explainer “The Economic Consequences of Populism,” historian Amity Shlaes delves into the Great Depression’s blundering economic policies, illuminating how misguided decisions led to prolonged suffering.

Yet a final thought, especially relevant now, involves the cost of politicizing economics. Any of us can understand that politicians must back silly or profoundly perverse policies to win an election. Many advocates of free markets will vote for candidates who emphasize anti-market concessions during campaign season, consoling themselves with the fact that the same campaigners, in a kind of aside, occasionally pay lip service to the power of markets. The voter, sometimes naively, hopes that once secure in office, the politicians will deliver the free-market policy. Sometimes, they do.

What is truly insidious however is when politicians advertise those subpar policies, from tariffs to, say, child credits or make-work jobs, as optimal economics, a guarantee of prosperity. For then, at least for a while, voters believe them. That is what happened in the 1930s. In such cases, the public, like the long-suffering 1930s electorate, becomes complicit in its own deception and disappointment.

In short, there is a price for placing faith in political leaders as one would in a church, a price for which voters are also responsible. “Have we found our happy valley?” Roosevelt asked when he called for a political license to continue his experimentation from on high in 1936. By reelecting him, even those many voters who did not have New Deal jobs agreed to continue to travel behind Roosevelt in his quest, and to tolerate policy that, at some level, they knew could not deliver. The consequence of this complicity was that second term of Depression.

The Americans who succumbed to political lures and failed to wind down, halt, block, or attenuate the New Deal were our great grandparents, or at the very least, our forerunners. Americans today owe it to them to forgive that error – and remember it. After all, they and we are one people.

It is possible therefore to extend the sage Anderson’s point.

The Great Depression did not endure because God struck America. It endured because our leaders played God. And because we let them.

Read her fascinating full analysis here: “The Economic Consequences of Populism

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; History; Society
KEYWORDS: depression; dustbowl; economy; fdr; greatdepression

1 posted on 12/09/2024 8:35:32 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Is it not at least logically possible that we could incur wrath by empowering leaders who condone the violation of natural law?


2 posted on 12/09/2024 8:40:13 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: SeekAndFind

When the Left complains about something, they always make up excuses, but they never mention it was their policies that caused the problem.


3 posted on 12/09/2024 8:46:03 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Read the book: FDR’s Folly ... how he managed to extend the Great Depression for years.


4 posted on 12/09/2024 8:49:48 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT


5 posted on 12/09/2024 8:52:53 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SeekAndFind

FDR...................


6 posted on 12/09/2024 8:56:39 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SkyDancer

If you aren’t part of the solution,
there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.

No wonder so many problems take so long to solve!


7 posted on 12/09/2024 9:24:42 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Red Badger

Yes, it was socialism under FDR.
Meanwhile, following WW-2, the British economy, with even more socialism, never recovered and was left behind by the US, West Germany, and Japan.


8 posted on 12/09/2024 9:27:02 PM PST by Swirl
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To: SeekAndFind
In a highly readable Explainer, Shlaes illustrates the economic mistakes of the Great Depression - which famously included government slaughtering and burying 6.5 million pigs to keep prices high while millions of Americans were going hungry - were even more nonsensical than you realized.

It sounds like business as usual for the government.

Apparently, we still haven't learned.

9 posted on 12/09/2024 9:33:12 PM PST by metmom
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To: SeekAndFind

Bad gov’t policies in the Depression years.

Bad gov’t policies now during the global warming hoax.


10 posted on 12/09/2024 10:59:22 PM PST by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: SeekAndFind; SkyDancer

Here is an old FR thread with the entire contents of an even older booklet called “The Revolution Was”, written in 1938 about FDR and The New Deal.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929392/posts

An excerpt:

Having passed this crisis, the New Deal went on from one problem to another, taking them in the proper order, according to revolutionary technic; and if the handling of one was inconsistent with the handling of another, even to the point of nullity, that was blunder in reverse. The effect was to keep people excited about one thing at a time, and divided, while steadily through all the uproar of outrage and confusion a certain end, held constantly in view, was pursued by main intention.

The end held constantly in view was power.


11 posted on 12/09/2024 11:04:56 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant - Never Fearful)
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To: SeekAndFind
Dust--Roy Rogers (1938)

Dusty Skies--Bob Wills & His Texas Playboys (1941)

There's No Depression in Love--Ben Selvin & His Orchestra (1931)

12 posted on 12/09/2024 11:07:34 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: SeekAndFind

Amity Shlaes’ book on The Great Depression, The Forgotten Man, is a must read.


13 posted on 12/10/2024 2:27:15 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

I look at what Shlaes says with a skeptical eye.

IIRC she’s a Democrat and a liberal.


14 posted on 12/10/2024 2:37:32 AM PST by sauropod ("You didn't take a country. You only won a football game!" - Dan Dakich Ne supra crepidam)
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To: SeekAndFind

“the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act that restricted free trade”

Back then the USA was the world’s leading manufacturing and exporting nation. It had a lot to lose from ending free trade, and it did.

What I favor is a blocked currency like India has. The Chinese stuff would get paid for by US dollars that would be lent to the federal government at 0% interest until the Chinese use those dollars to pay American workers or buy American goods.

There would be no tariffs involved, so the Chinese imports would not cost American consumers more money.

The system would apply to all countries, including Mexico and Germany.

American companies would get no interest on deposits either. If they paid dividends, the American citizen shareholders would then be able to get interest via participating banks.

Remittances to foreign countries by say Mexicans would have to be in the form of American goods and services.

For an American to travel to Europe would mean arranging for a foreigner to travel here via a trip bartering agency.

The existing dollars held by foreigners would remain outside the system. These would become less valuable due to inflation. Interest payments on American debt would be paid into the system.


15 posted on 12/10/2024 3:00:31 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SkyDancer

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16 posted on 12/10/2024 3:51:05 AM PST by LouAvul (He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God. [2 Sam 23:3])
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To: SeekAndFind

Not well known and never discussed, even Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz in their monumental history of US monetary policy don’t have a lot to say about this but in 1937, well into the New Deal, the US economy entered a recession.

Read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1937%E2%80%931938

A recession inside of a depression.


17 posted on 12/10/2024 7:10:01 AM PST by fatboy (')
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To: SkyDancer

Amazingly in high school in the very early 1980’s my US History teacher actually talked about many of these reasons and why FDR prolonged the Great Depression with bad economic policies. He talked about the usual Relief, Recovery and Reform that is SOP for FDR, but then he talked about the disastrous things FDR did that prolonged the misery of the depression.

He also went strongly on the Bill of Rights which I came to appreciate in college.


18 posted on 12/10/2024 7:34:19 AM PST by sarge83
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To: SeekAndFind

All of the government programs under FDR failed to get the US economy back on track. Unemployment was virtually unchanged from 1930 to 1938. World War II is what ended the Depression. Virtually overnight we had full employment and with wartime rationing curtailing consumer spending saving increased. When the war ended there was much pent up consumer demand, new technologies developed during the war became new industries and the GI bill created a new educated workforce. The post war economic situation had its problems, but the Depression was ended. Without WW-II the Great Depression might have persisted well into the mid 1940s.


19 posted on 12/10/2024 7:45:08 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: SeekAndFind
Many things come to mind of this article:

Desperate people want a miracle and will follow anyone who promises it to them.

By the time politicians mistakes come full cycle nobody remembers who made them.

There are almost always unintended consequences They come more frequently after hasty action for political gain.

Time can heal a lot of things if only we are patient and endure.

Left alone working systems tend to keep working unless we try to improve them too quickly and without first understanding how they work in the first place.

There are times when you need to keep your cotton-picking hands off the controls.

20 posted on 12/10/2024 11:12:42 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Donald John Trump. First man to be Elected to the Presidency THREE times since FDR.)
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