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Handguns in Defense Against Bears by Caliber | 10mm, .41 Magnum, and .45 Super
AmmoLand ^ | July 9, 2024 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/13/2024 4:23:59 AM PDT by marktwain

Here are all the cases which have been documented where 10mm, .41 Magnum, .45 Super caliber handguns were fired in defense against bears. This grouping includes the three calibers to provide enough incidents to be illuminating.  These cases do not include incidents where handguns were use with other lethal means, or a mix of handgun calibers were used. There are 7 incidents with a 10mm caliber handgun (1 black bear, 6 brown), 4 incidents with .41 Magnum revolvers (1 black, 3 brown), and 1 incident with a .45 super handgun (brown bear). All were successful. The incidents are listed by caliber, chronologically within caliber.

We have found seven cases where a 10 mm pistol was used to defend against bears. 1 black and 6 brown bears. All were successful.

August 18, 2002, Western Talkeetna Mountains, Alaska, 10mm grizzly bear. Personal interview with Jack Jefferson in 2021. Included in AmmoLand article on 10mm.

A problem bear was becoming much too familiar with people and property at the lodge on a lake. Several cabins had been broken into and ransacked for food on the other side of the lake. Professional guide Jake Jefferson had his 10mm built by his brother on a six inch longside 1911 frame, with an eight shot magazine.  
He attempted to haze the bear away from the lodge, and fired six shots near the bear, which indifferently moved a little way away. It came back quickly and tore up a bunch of empty coolers.  
Jake looked for another firearm, but did not find any close to hand.  

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


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The 10mm is becoming popular as a gun to carry in defense against bears and as a general, all purpose back-country pistol.
1 posted on 07/13/2024 4:23:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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Thanks. Interesting stories.


2 posted on 07/13/2024 4:39:07 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page. More photos added.)
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“I stuck the barrel up against its neck, and the 250 grain .338 did not make it out the other side of its neck.”

Incredibly frightening situations against formidable foe.


3 posted on 07/13/2024 4:48:13 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: marktwain

Yes, thanks for the work you do.


4 posted on 07/13/2024 5:30:49 AM PDT by OKSooner (Oh, the mad fools!)
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To: marktwain

Some Canadian told me a semiautomatic shotgun with double ought can deflect a bear attack


5 posted on 07/13/2024 5:36:19 AM PDT by 2nd Amendment
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I don't carry a firearm. I hike with my trusty .50 BMG Bangstick.


6 posted on 07/13/2024 5:49:42 AM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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The 10mm is becoming popular as a gun to carry in defense against bears and as a general, all purpose back-country pistol.

I wish I hadn’t sold mine…

7 posted on 07/13/2024 6:08:06 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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Lot’s of wasted warning shots... Do warning shots ever work? Sounds like it would have been better saving those rounds for the bear.


8 posted on 07/13/2024 6:10:14 AM PDT by Max_850
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Warning shots often work with bears. The problem with compiling statistics about warning shots is most instances where they work are never reported.

In the instances where warning shots were reported as being tried, in the 190 cases we have documented where pistols were fired in defense against bears, warning shots worked about 70% of the time.

Of 29 recorded instances, warning shots worked in 21 instances.

9 posted on 07/13/2024 6:15:53 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: 2nd Amendment

Having shot bears with double 00 buck, yes it well work.

But having shot bears with rifles, shotguns and different pistol calibers.

I have found solid projectiles work better.

Buckshot lack pentation past 15 yards.


10 posted on 07/13/2024 6:38:31 AM PDT by riverrunner
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Your obsession with killing bears seems to suggest a mental condition that needs professional help. If you’re that afraid of bear attacks then do us all a favor and just stay out of the woods.


11 posted on 07/13/2024 6:49:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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12 posted on 07/13/2024 7:00:50 AM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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You’re tempting me to go out and buy a 10mm ...

I have no trouble handling 1911 sized handguns. I’m not a fan of Glocks.

Suggestions are welcome.


13 posted on 07/13/2024 7:07:45 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Some of us enjoy the articles.


14 posted on 07/13/2024 7:19:52 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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Seems that you're kinda obsessed with antagonizing Mark about his bear research.

No one forcing any of it on you personally.

15 posted on 07/13/2024 7:27:04 AM PDT by OKSooner (Oh, the mad fools!)
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Bears are ubiquitous outside of urban areas in most of North America. I have lived in bear country all of my adult life and have survived black and brown bear charges while armed and unarmed. I appreciate Mr. Weingarten’s efforts to chronicle bear attacks and often gain valuable insight from his writings. If you can’t appreciate it, don’t read it.


16 posted on 07/13/2024 7:44:09 AM PDT by 43north (Dear God, after I die don't let me vote democrat.)
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To: NorthMountain

The Springfield Armory XDM Elite and Smith & Wesson M&P 10mm pistols are both well-regarded and reasonably priced. Loaded with hard cast lead bullets in the 200 grain range that caliber is amassing a solid record of success in defensive bear shootings. Personally I would prefer a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range but those are expensive…


17 posted on 07/13/2024 7:57:27 AM PDT by 43north (Dear God, after I die don't let me vote democrat.)
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I sure as Hell wouldn’t want to meet any of you in the woods because you’d shoot someone with your eagerness to kill a bear.

Bears are not worth a daily article about shooting bears. That’s an Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.


18 posted on 07/13/2024 8:11:52 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: OKSooner

If you don’t like my comments then don’t read them, right?


19 posted on 07/13/2024 8:14:29 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: CodeToad

I am not eager to kill bears and you have no idea what you are talking about.


20 posted on 07/13/2024 8:25:34 AM PDT by 43north (Dear God, after I die don't let me vote democrat.)
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