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Why can't the West believe Hamas would Burn Babies?
The Jerusalem Post ^ | October 13, 2023 | Maayan Jaffe-Hoffman

Posted on 10/13/2023 12:28:40 PM PDT by JJung_75

"...The massacre against Israel was rooted in Hamas’s lethal, radical ideology. Believing anything else is believing lies.

In a striking interview with Sky News, political and international relations for Hamas, Basem Naim, told the reporter that Hamas did not kill any innocent Israeli civilians..."

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel; massacre; murderedbabies; west
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, exactly right. There are many who worship at his altar these days and don’t even realize it.


81 posted on 10/14/2023 6:03:56 AM PDT by JJung_75
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To: All

The most serious evil of our times...

Is the leftist godless deep state and their loyal pawns.


82 posted on 10/14/2023 6:05:23 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Why I Oughta! Tired of leftards... Bang, Zoom, To The Moon!)
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To: JJung_75

That’s the wrong question.

The right question: Why should we take any Deep State’s word for anything ever?


83 posted on 10/14/2023 6:06:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: JJung_75

I don’t know why the west would have any problem believing Hamas did this because a whole lot of people in the west have no problem chopping up and taking apart infants in the womb.


84 posted on 10/14/2023 6:06:53 AM PDT by dforest
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To: metmom
Muslims don’t think any Jews are *innocent* so they can claim, with a straight face that they didn’t kill any innocent Jews. Liars.

Yes, that is how their twisted, poisoned logic works. They are liars.

85 posted on 10/14/2023 6:07:58 AM PDT by JJung_75
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To: Bikkuri

Our old retread friend Rattlesnake_Snook finally got caught and got the zot.


About time!


86 posted on 10/14/2023 6:33:54 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Because historically Christians have defended the innocent from being murdered without demanding they convert to their brand of Christianity.

Anyone who can watch a baby being killed and say to himself "I need to give the parents a religious quiz first" is not a Christian.

In fact I doubt you are even human.

87 posted on 10/14/2023 8:18:39 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Because historically Christians have defended the innocent from being murdered without demanding they convert to their brand of Christianity. Anyone who can watch a baby being killed and say to himself "I need to give the parents a religious quiz first" is not a Christian. In fact I doubt you are even human.

I will distinguish to the extent as to what "supporting and defending" covers. If it means protecting the innocent in the moment (Israeli or Palestinian), approving should go without saying.

If "supporting and defending" means going along carte blanche with the current policy of Israel (which has resulted in a situation where over 40% of the population of Gaza, being under the age of 15, has known nothing but life under Hamas and under Israeli blockade in one of the most densely populated areas in the world; that's what I'd like to call a 'demographic and geopolitical pressure cooker'), then I would say it's not un-Christian to disagree with what's turned out to be self-defeating actions (such as tacitly supporting Hamas at the expense of Mahmoud Abbas).

Alas, the frenzy that's gripped everyone is depressing; at least on my feed, calls for retribution against Hamas are strictly overwhelmed by calls for eradicating every single Palestinian within Gaza. It's even more inexcusable to see such mania descend on people who aren't party to the conflict whatsoever.

On a material level, just given the long blood feud between the Israelis and the Palestinians, I don't think anybody would trust the Israelis to adjudicate a takedown of the Gaza Strip. Realistically, the most optimal solution would be joint task force comprised of foreign nationals from across the diplomatic spectrum (those who are pro-Israel and anti-Palestine, those who are pro-Palestine and anti-Israel, and those who have professed neutrality as their policy) to defeat Hamas and oversee any humanitarian corridors and operations; naturally, this would involve an end to the blockade, so this joint task force would have to remain indefinitely until an ultimate political resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian would be achieved.

But in truth, there will be no true peace until all (Jew or Muslim, Israeli or Arab) convert to Christ.

88 posted on 10/14/2023 9:16:48 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Realistically, the most optimal solution would be joint task force comprised of foreign nationals

You have read history and know how the "joint task force" idea ends right?

Or are you someone who thinks the United Nations child abusers are good people?

Just curious as to how far your delusion goes.

89 posted on 10/14/2023 9:44:53 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
You have read history and know how the "joint task force" idea ends right? Or are you someone who thinks the United Nations child abusers are good people? Just curious as to how far your delusion goes.

Where did I mention the United Nations? Are all joint task forces supposed to be done under the aegis of the Not-So-Mighty Blue Helmets? By no means.

All I'm saying, from the point of blunt geopolitical realism, is that none of Israel's Arab neighbors would trust Israel to adjudicate a Gaza takedown by itself, as seen with how *every single one* (including those that Israel has been developing diplomatic relations with over the past several years) has come out and publicly said that they will not support Israel displacing the Palestinians wholesale from Gaza (because let's be honest: where would they go?). Such a JTF (involving America, Russia, and various European/Asian/African states) would be the best of a lot of bad options at mollifying the locals, who have immense antipathy against Israel by default.

At this juncture, pretty much every available option is bad to one degree or another. Those who are saying "just raze Gaza to the ground and give every Palestinian what they deserve" imply that Israel doesn't care what the second-order diplomatic consequences would be amongst their neighbors, who *will* ignore their own feuds if such an event came to pass.

In an era where American hegemony is on an obvious decline, that's a dangerous decision to make blithely, and I'd *like* to think the Israelis aren't as foolhardy as we are.

90 posted on 10/14/2023 9:53:18 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: SuperLuminal
The same way that Americans, post WWII, refused to accept that American downed flyers were carved up, kept alive while being carved up to preserve freshness, cooked, and eaten by those stinking japs...

I heard of Unit 721 when most people hadn't.

As well as stuff from the Rape of Nanking.

But I've never heard of this one.

Do you have a link so I can read up on it?

91 posted on 10/14/2023 7:32:21 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Jim Noble

Concur.


92 posted on 10/14/2023 7:37:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
"Do you have a link so I can read up on it?

Yes.. Will dig it out and send it to you...

93 posted on 10/14/2023 8:19:53 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: Bikkuri
One more retread, trampled by the Mods.

What a shame. As the song goes...

"go ahead and kiss him GOODBYE"

94 posted on 10/14/2023 10:50:56 PM PDT by Widget Jr (9/11 - 11/M - 10/7)
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To: Bikkuri

Ha ha...Will add to my list, thanks.

See my profile for more information


95 posted on 10/15/2023 6:14:39 PM PDT by notted
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To: grey_whiskers; max americana

[I heard of Unit 721 when most people hadn’t.]

I think you meant 731

X-Files did a variation on that


96 posted on 10/16/2023 2:24:45 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris


"Words just cannot describe these Hanas"


BTW, in Japanese, hana is flower.. BAD typo!! 😜
97 posted on 10/16/2023 3:08:18 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Bikkuri

LOL

That’s what I get for typing in near-dark - I just have one lamp on low-light

LOL


98 posted on 10/16/2023 3:32:43 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: BenLurkin

And they drove around with her body.....

Words just cannot describe these HAMAS ...


99 posted on 10/16/2023 3:33:26 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris
NO excuse.. dammit, can't find the water tower "Save Ferris" pic.. too dark...


😁

100 posted on 10/16/2023 3:42:55 AM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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