Posted on 05/04/2023 8:34:22 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat
Horribly, on this date in 1630 nine-year-old “witches” named Christine Teipel and Grete Halman were executed for witchcraft, in either Oberkirchen (where they were from) or Fredeburg (where they were tried).
For unknown reasons — maybe some deep well of trauma, or maybe just being a mischievous small child with no grasp of the consequences — “Stine” Teipel began spouting off in 1628 about being a witch herself, and about all the neighbors she knew who were also witches. The damage was not immediate — likely she wasn’t taken seriously — but the girl’s fabulisms lay around like dry tinder, perfect material in early 17th century Germany for gathering to a pyre.
The next year, a Hexenprozess local maximum brought her charges into the ambit of a judiciary and she....
(Excerpt) Read more at executedtoday.com ...
“She’s a witch, can we burn her?!’’
We do witch hunts differently today. But we still do witch hunts.
This is when witches were witches and men were men.
“How do you know she’s a witch?’’
“She turned me into a newt!’’
“Well... I got better’’.
At least the witches knew they were women!
Those were the days.
[She had also been on a mountain where the devil had provided everyone with beautiful clothes, as well as beer and wine in barrels of gold...partner had had a ‘thing’ on his body, which he had put in her private parts...]
Epsine’s mountain?
Now, almost 400 years ago.
Sobering that their anti-Christian hatred extends so far, isn’t it? That still today, in their new religion of hatred and racist biases, they have to go back tot he Salem witch trials to justify their hatred - when the FIRST countries opposing slavery were the Northern European Christian cultures - When Chinese, African and Muslim slavery continues to this day.
Sobering that there are still those who actually believe that they were witches.
If you preach HATE, people will LOVE you.
If you preach LOVE, people will HATE you.....................
Ignores the possibilities that she was telling the truth.
We must not speak of this any longer.
The “narrative” is that ONLY the United States had witch burning and it’s proof of Christian radicalism that’s here on this side of the Atlantic and all of that blah blah blah. You know, Salem witch trials? That can’t possibly have happened in Europe also. The Europeans are so enlightened.
It hurts the precious “narrative” to discuss these things.
Yeah, that is true. The excerpt of the events that she testified to are events that can be explained easily as things that humans can accomplish. For instance, “the devil” could just have been a person in a devil costume.
I do often wonder what percentage of “witches” during the burning times were people who actually did worship the devil and belong to Satanic cults.
I mean, a lot of people in our times do. It stands to reason these groups have been with us throughout the ages.
I also wonder how many of the Satanic cult members were people who accused those they didn’t like of belonging to the cult and being witches because it gave them pleasure doing so. Maybe to them getting innocents killed got them points with Satan.
While that is the narrative that is pushed but in Asia, Africa and the Americas hunting and killing witches was a thing long before Christianity showed up.
There was "good" (state approved magic) and "bad" (state disapproved magic). If you were not a state approved practitioner you were burned, drown, stoned, hung, torn apart or had any number of other unpleasant things happen to you.
And what was approved could literally change from day to day.
Well, if you have ever been around a group of little girls.....
I kid of course.
But they can be a handful.
And when they start growing up they can go from sugar and spice to acid and flame very fast. Mostly hormones. But it is not hard to believe that they are being controlled by supernatural forces.
https://www.quora.com/Did-the-medieval-Catholic-church-truly-believe-that-witches-can-use-dark-magic
Tim O'Neill I have a M.A. in Medieval Literature and have studied most aspects of the period for many years.Author has 657 answers and 11.4M answer views7y
"Since "the medieval Church" encompasses the Church in a 1000 year period from c. 500 to 1500 AD, the answer to the question is complicated by the fact that teachings and beliefs about witchcraft changed over that time. For most of the medieval period, up until around 1350, the teaching of the Church was that witches didn't exist and that they were a figment of people's imaginations. Far from condemning people as witches, the Church condemned the whole idea that witches existed as a pagan superstition. Here is the Carolingian law imposed on the newly converted Saxons on the matter:
"If anyone, deceived by the Devil, shall believe, as is customary among pagans, that any man or woman is a night-witch, and eats men, and on that account burn that person to death... he shall be executed"
More at link.
Late Medieval Europe: The civil authorities, especially in Northern Europe, were more likely to be the ones who would torture and execute you than the Church. Ecclesiastical courts were more likely to Hold you and catachize you and eventually release you. Witches were not a big thing in Spain. The local woman was more like the village herbal expert, their version of a Pharmacist.
CS Lewis once said "Torture does not tell you much about the beliefs of the tortured, but it does tell you the beliefs of the torturers."
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