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Transgender doctor lies to an audience of parents about medically transitioning kids - "puberty blockers are a completely reversible medication."
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-27-23 | Billboard Chris

Posted on 02/27/2023 11:33:22 AM PST by Starman417

Video obtained from a concerned parent reveals Dr. Holly Hoefgen -- of the Washington University transgender clinic in St. Louis, which is currently under investigation -- lying to an audience of parents about the practices followed when medically transitioning kids. (click photo for video)

This was an event organized for parents by local Parent Teacher Organization Equity Committees.

The Washington University transgender clinic is the subject of a recent bombshell whistleblower report by Jamie Reed.

It is now being investigated by Missouri’s Attorney General @AGAndrewBailey, and also by Senator @HawleyMO.

Read this for the truth of what’s going on.

Jamie Reed goes into even more detail in her affidavit filed with the Attorney General.

Here is the entire transcript, with some added commentary by me.

Moderator, asking a question from the audience: “Are hormone therapies reversible? Basically, I guess I'm just interested in knowing more about health outcomes.”

Dr. Hoefgen: “So the first thing that I would tell people when we're looking at this question is I think there is a little bit of bias built into this question as well.”

Right off the bat, the doctor is suggesting bigotry.

It couldn’t possibly be a more reasonable question: “Are hormone therapies reversible?”

They’re not, of course, which I’ll get into, but it’s standard trans activist practice to try to quell honest questioning by suggesting it’s all transphobia.

Doctor: “So just understand that we are not, like, going out into the world and, like, looking for kids to, like, make them trans, right?”

Moderator: “That's not what the politicians say.”

Well, doctor, you’re literally out in the world at this event organized by PTO Equity Committees, speaking to parents, selling them a lie that some of their kids are born in the wrong body.

Dr. Hoefgen: “Like, that's not a goal that is there, right? Our goal is to be here and available for people to give them the things that they need, right?”

“And there are protocols and there are steps for anything that has to do with medicine, right?”

“So I have a governing body to tell me, you know, what are the best things to do for patients who have abnormal bleeding or patients who have endometriosis, and we follow those steps.”

“And there are similar governing bodies and similar steps that we follow for gender care, right?”

“So if people come to us at a prepubertal age, right, patients who are younger, then that is really gonna have to do more with having them speak openly . . .”

“. . . having them talk with a mental health professional, letting them live as themselves, right, so letting them dress the way that they prefer to dress and talk the way that they prefer to talk and, you know, actually moving into something like medical management, right . . .”

“. . . requires them to have gone through an evaluation with the mental health professional, talk about their feelings and meet a certain criteria, right?”

“That is laid out and then at that point, we're talking to them and their parents very in depth about the risks and benefits of these treatments, right?”

“Many of the treatments that we do, especially when we're talking about younger patients, they actually are very reversible, right?”

“So the medicines that we use to halt puberty, right, so that a person is not going through a puberty that is going to be very averse to them, right? That is a completely reversible medication.”

Okay, so Dr. Hoefgen is halfway through her sales pitch about how there are protocols and steps in place, laid down by governing bodies.

She says there are therapists involved, and “very in depth” conversations about the risks and benefits.

She punctuates these points with the greatest and most common lie of all: that puberty blockers are “a completely reversible medication.”

Let’s contrast these lies with the truth, as attested to by Jamie Reed, who worked at that clinic for 4 years and was responsible for patient intake and oversight.

Here’s the truth: “I witnessed staff at the Center provide puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones to children without complete informed parental consent and without an appropriate or accurate assessment of the needs of the child.

“I witnessed children experience shocking injuries from the medication the Center prescribed. And I saw the Center make no attempt or effort to track adverse outcomes of patients after they left the Center.”

“The Center also claims that it is a multidisciplinary team approach. The benefit of that approach is supposed to be that patients and their parents can feel more confident that all aspects of their care options have been considered . . .”

“. . . and that their treatment plan has the input of all of the team. This Center did have members who would advocate for different options for the patients with concerning gender histories, concerning comorbidities, . . .”

“and attempt to raise the serious concerns regarding patient care. Patients and their parents, however, were never informed that the team did not have consensus on the treatment.”

“The staff members on the team that were not universally in support of immediate cross sex hormones were not supported and were told to stop questioning the prevailing narrative of immediate cross sex hormones for all by the prescribing physicians.”

“The administration at the university did not actively support the multidisciplinary model of care and did not provide any oversight, and instead the administration told those raising concerns and questions to stop raising them.”

“The public has been led to believe that a ‘team’ has considered their child’s care and that the ‘team’ had ruled it best for the cross sex hormones to be initiated, but the public was not told the truth.”

“Medical transition practice for children and adolescents is based on a study from the Netherlands. That study, the “Dutch study,” excluded participants who presented underlying mental health issues.”

“But nearly all children who came to the Center here presented with very serious mental health problems. Despite claiming to be a place where children could receive multidisciplinary care, the Center would not treat these mental health issues.”

“Instead, children were automatically given puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones even though the Dutch study excluded persons experiencing mental health issues.”

“Most children who come into the Center were assigned female at birth. Nearly all of them have serious comorbidities including, autism, ADHD, depression, anxiety, PTSD, trauma histories, OCD, and serious eating disorders.”

“Rather than treat these conditions, the doctors prescribe puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones.”

Some examples are included here:

“These serious comorbidities were not treated by the Center, and doctors would prescribe puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones while patients were struggling with these comorbidities.”

“Many patients had depression and anxiety symptoms before starting cross sex hormones but it was only after starting these medications that they became more severe and required starting mental health medications.”

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: medicine; puberty; pubertyblockers; transgender
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1 posted on 02/27/2023 11:33:22 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Pretty much what I have read on non-biased sites is it is not reversible and giving the boys estrogen and the girls testostone damages the internal organs. And that doesn’t account for the high rate of suicide attempts or successes for those who transition, which sits at 46% according to the CDC. When you alter science and biology with synthetic drugs, there are consequences.


2 posted on 02/27/2023 11:37:37 AM PST by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: Starman417

Experimenting on children


3 posted on 02/27/2023 11:37:58 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: Starman417

Okay, didn’t read the article. Just have a question.

Who in their right mind would give even five seconds of their time to some guy who had a sex change operation?


4 posted on 02/27/2023 11:41:52 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Starman417

Medical malpractice. No one tells the girls that after 5 years of taking testosterone, their uterus may atrophy and become dangerously infected, and that they may have to have a hysterectomy as a result. Voice lowering and male pattern baldness are permanent. Then there are a host of immune system and cardiac issues no one seems to mention to them. :(


5 posted on 02/27/2023 11:45:03 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Starman417

Like, you know, right? Jeezus, med schools spit out morons nowadays. Evil ones, at that.


6 posted on 02/27/2023 11:47:54 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: Starman417

“DO NO HARM”


7 posted on 02/27/2023 11:49:28 AM PST by 9422WMR (45 1. Lie, cheat, steal. It’s how the democRATS operate. )
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To: Starman417

Nuremberg level stuff here.


8 posted on 02/27/2023 11:49:48 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Starman417

Medically transitioning kids prior to age 18 should be a crime. They change their minds constantly. If at age 18 they want to mutilate their body, that’s on them.


9 posted on 02/27/2023 11:50:57 AM PST by BBQToadRibs2
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To: butlerweave

Yep. Everyone involved should be executed after big public trial like was done after WW2.


10 posted on 02/27/2023 11:51:48 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Starman417
Transgender doctor lies

Well yeah, it's a he pretending to be a she. XY ≠ XX

"You knew what I was when you picked me up."

11 posted on 02/27/2023 11:52:37 AM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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To: Starman417

anything and everything is reversible if you pay enough do ray me...

the crimes against humanity trials will be horrifyingly detailed.


12 posted on 02/27/2023 11:54:56 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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To: Starman417

1/2 way through the article with a rhetorical question.
These doctors used to look crazy, or bizarrely weird. Yet This woman, and the freak from Vanderbilt U that was exposed by Matt Walsh, look like attractive, reasonable, intelligent, loving women. Then you compare their look to what they are doing (destroying vulnerable, often mentally fragile young people) and it’s fantastical.


13 posted on 02/27/2023 11:59:31 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Starman417

Lies upon lies.

First, they ARE actively trying to recruit children, especially young girls.

Second, the puberty blockers and hormone WILL permanently alter a person’s, especially if given at pre-puberty.

Third, the “mental health care” that children are given is almost never to sort out the issues as to why the child believes they are in the wrong body but instead they reinforce the child’s gender dysphoria. often the “mental health professional” signs off on the life and body altering procedure after only a couple of shallow visits. And in some states it is illegal for a mental health professional to give the child REAL mental health care intended to guide them to their biological sex.


14 posted on 02/27/2023 12:04:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Blacks have placed stronger chains on themselves than the slave masters of old ever forged.)
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To: Starman417

“safe and effective”...


15 posted on 02/27/2023 12:06:21 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: realcleanguy
When you alter science and biology with synthetic drugs, there are consequences.

Yeah, you may be able to outrun Mother Nature for a while, but Father Time WILL catch up with you.

16 posted on 02/27/2023 12:06:25 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: BenLurkin

People in the left mind, i.e. stupid people who believe what leftists tell them. I’ve had arguments with people who insist that the ONLY treatment for gender dysphoria is transitioning.


17 posted on 02/27/2023 12:07:20 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Blacks have placed stronger chains on themselves than the slave masters of old ever forged.)
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To: Ezekiel

Really? So the doctor pushing all this is himself/herself, one of the trans people???


18 posted on 02/27/2023 12:08:17 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Starman417

Does it matter if they are reversible or not? The issue is whether they should be injected into children before they themselves have reached the age of informed consent


19 posted on 02/27/2023 12:45:23 PM PST by wildbill (The older I get, the less the term 'life in prison" scares me)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

It’s rather ambiguous. The photos don’t help, and certainly not the title,

“Transgender doctor”

If it’s actually XX, I made a sincere mistake, ooops. The red flags frantically wave regardless. Knowing what this “doctor” is pushing, supporters and the easily sold have to be just as mental as the freaks who are mutilating children in broad daylight.

Some way, some how, this horror is going to be rectified from above.


20 posted on 02/27/2023 12:52:16 PM PST by Ezekiel (🆘️ "Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars ♂️, aka every man)
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