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Tucker Carlson Discusses Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage, Almost Certainly a U.S. Covert Action Russia
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 9/27/22 | Sundance

Posted on 09/27/2022 8:31:39 PM PDT by hardspunned

Tucker Carlson accurately outlined the most likely suspect of the sabotage against Russia’s Nord Stream I and II pipeline today. When you consider the media blitz by Joe Biden’s National Security Advisor, Jake Sullivan, last weekend (ABC, CNN, NBC and CBS); specifically pointing out the U.S. position against Russia; it is almost a certainty that U.S. action was behind the underwater detonation of explosives to take out Nord Stream pipeline system.

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To: Governor Dinwiddie

The videos exist independent of Tucker.


81 posted on 09/27/2022 9:45:56 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: hardspunned
If Nordstream 2 had been operating, and delivering fuel to Germany while sending hard currency back to Russia, then you'd have a motive. But it wasn't operating, and there was no plan for anyone to be shipping fuel through it at any time in the foreseeable future. So what's the point of blowing it up?,

. Russians pissed off at the loss of a major customer, and wanting to creat a false flag is more likely.

82 posted on 09/27/2022 9:46:00 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Paul R.
I'm supportive of Ukraine, but, honestly, they don't have very much of that equipment.

Ukraine is receiving quite a lot. Not enough in terms of rockets and heavy weapons. In fact, they didn't even really receive as many HIMARs as they should have. Yet they make good use of what they have. And I expect Ukraine to continue to be supplied throughout the fall and winter with more powerful weapons.

83 posted on 09/27/2022 9:46:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: hardspunned

ABC News @ABC

Pres. Biden: “If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

Reporter: “But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany’s control?”

Biden: “I promise you, we will be able to do that.”

http://abcn.ws/3B5SScx


84 posted on 09/27/2022 9:47:45 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: jdege
How deep was the water?

That may reduce the possibilities...

Depth is moderate, in the neighborhood of 250-320 feet. A surface boat could launch an ROV carrying a shaped-charge mine for delayed detonation.

I heard a semi-credible report that we had an amphibious task force in that area a few days ago. When you think about it from several different angles the end point is the same.

The EU, in particular Germany (the cornerstone of the EU) is not lately a good friend to us nor are we to it. We have no love lost for Russia either. The destruction of NS-1 and NS-2 screws them all while increasing demand for US LNG.

The US had motive and certainly had opportunity.

85 posted on 09/27/2022 9:47:54 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
#70: "Europe is not going to "Freeze" despite constant propaganda to the contrary."

How could it possibly freeze? They've been telling us that they are suffering from global warming, making the seas boil, and making eggs fry on asphalt.

86 posted on 09/27/2022 9:48:08 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: BobL

I don’t think there is ANY way that Poland would blow up Russia’s pipe lines without explicit instructions from the U.S. Poland doesn’t get to make NATO foreign policy. The repercussions of this could be enormous for us...definitely an escalation.

Poland may have done this, but only directed as a covert action to provide plausible deniability for our government. Remember der spiegel said that our CIA (not Poland’s intelligence service) warned Berlin 2 weeks ago about possible attacks on gas pipelines.

Germany and Poland have been at each other’s throats recently. If Poland did this even at our direction it is bound to increase tensions.

I think we own this 100%.


87 posted on 09/27/2022 9:48:21 PM PDT by Cathi
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Paul R.
Ukraine is receiving quite a lot. Not enough in terms of rockets and heavy weapons. In fact, they didn't even really receive as many HIMARs as they should have. Yet they make good use of what they have. And I expect Ukraine to continue to be supplied throughout the fall and winter with more powerful weapons.

Shoigu knows where the NATO and US officers who are directing things in Kiev are having lunch every day.

88 posted on 09/27/2022 9:49:03 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil
Hand-waving, as is your wont.

You misunderstood your own propaganda, so you imagine I am "handwaving" things away, even though the promise was that Germany would freeze. If Germany is confident they will make it through the winter, then your numbers HAVE to refer to the entire year. And in that event, Germany has already reduced its dependence on Russia down to 27%, and I do not know how much this dependence will be lessened thanks to the Norway-Poland pipeline.

Spring and Summer are better times to worry about 27% than the Winter.

89 posted on 09/27/2022 9:51:04 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: McGruff

And who should we fear blowing up bio labs and nuclear plants in Ukraine? The Ukes with the fallout on their streets or the Russians with streets just across the border? Or some other sinister force at work in the world?


90 posted on 09/27/2022 9:51:36 PM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Cathi; BobL
I think we own this 100%.

If the smart Yalie neocon kids didn't order this - then they didn't think of this eventuality.

And since it's their screwing around that made this possible, they STILL own it.

It actually doesn't matter who did it - just the fact that no natgas can come from Russia no matter what.

91 posted on 09/27/2022 9:53:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

If that was true, Russia’s newest front in Luhansk wouldn’t be on the verge of collapsing... again!

And no NATO or US officers were necessary to kick the shit out of Russia’s army of savages, who spend most of their peace time torturing and raping each other instead of learning how to be real soldiers:

““That day, [the officers] promised to turn me out. They warned me that, like, they’ll rape me,” the Baza news website quoted Shamsutdinov as saying.

“I know they’d turned all the other young ones out before me. If that evening was my turn, I had nowhere to go, what should I have done?” Shamsutdinov reportedly said.

His father, Salimzhan Shamsutdinov, said earlier in the day that “constant, prolonged” hazing drove his son to carry out the mass shooting.”

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/11/06/they-warned-theyll-rape-me-russian-soldier-stands-by-mass-shooting-a68062

Some more:

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2020/02/high-suicide-rate-plagues-russian-military-lawmaker-says

“He explained how over a period of time, while he was serving as a conscript here in St. Petersburg, he was forced into male prostitution. It was his superiors who made him do this, the people who are traditionally known in the Russian army as ‘dyedi’, or ‘uncles’,” Yezheleva said. “They beat him, and then they gave him a telephone, he arranged a meeting with the client and discussed the price. He went and carried out these functions and then he took the money from the client and gave it to his superiors.”

“Pavel, who has asked that his real name not be revealed, claimed he endured the abuse for several months before approaching the Union of Soldiers’ Mothers Committees, a nationwide group that protects the rights of conscripts in the Russian military. Pavel has written a statement and filed a case in the courts, although no date has been set for a preliminary reading.

“You’re In The Army Now

“Yezheleva said she has heard of few cases where conscripts were forced into prostitution to earn money for their superiors. But she said rape and abuse in the military is not unusual.”

https://www.rferl.org/a/1075412.html


92 posted on 09/27/2022 9:53:46 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; BobL
LOLOL!

Best wipe those numbers off good, Puny - considering where you pulled them from.

93 posted on 09/27/2022 9:54:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: hardspunned

Tucker better have hard evidence. Tucker is accusing the US of attacking NATO.


94 posted on 09/27/2022 9:55:10 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Chgogal

He never stated an accusation, just catalogued the facts at hand to make the obvious implication.


95 posted on 09/27/2022 9:56:23 PM PDT by dead (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_vFiUUcBkc)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
I'm sure you got a talking-to about toning down the "language" a week or so ago.

Did you forget so soon?  

96 posted on 09/27/2022 9:56:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: House Atreides

People here and Tucker are accusing the US of attacking NATO.


97 posted on 09/27/2022 9:56:39 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: kiryandil
Best wipe those numbers off good, Puny - considering where you pulled them from.

What numbers? The link I already provided regarding Germany's fuel storage, which you imagined was propaganda by "Bobby"? Or the 27 percent number?

"How reliant is Germany on Russian gas? Natural gas makes up about 27% of Germany's overall energy mix. Before the start of Russia's war in Ukraine, just over half (55%) of gas consumed in Germany was imported from Russia."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/21/how-reliant-is-germany-and-europe-russian-gas-nord-stream#:~:text=How%20reliant%20is%20Germany%20on,Germany%20was%20imported%20from%20Russia.

I suppose your next response will be, "Oh, the Guardian! Fake news! They're lying about how dependent Germany is!"

In which case, why would they bother? And the number quoted in May, just before July, was 33 percent, by other sources, also down from 55%.

Meanwhile, you haven't clarified or sourced your own numbers, even once.

Are you... projecting, Russkie!?

98 posted on 09/27/2022 9:58:41 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: kiryandil

So what do you think Russia will do in retribution? So far, no clues from them at all on the internet. Only that it is clear the pipelines were blown up and they want a thorough investigation and the results made public.

Any guesses as to what this leads to? Obviously it was done to quash Saudia Arabia’s peace plan. The U.S. seems very worried that some EU governments may cave under pressure from their people.


99 posted on 09/27/2022 9:59:16 PM PDT by Cathi
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