Posted on 03/20/2022 5:05:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
There are new reports about U.S. special forces operators who are doing “operational prep of the battlefield” in Ukraine.
Seth Harp, an investigative reporter and contributing editor to Rolling Stone, revealed the JSOC operations on Sunday.
“US special operators are currently on the ground in Ukraine doing ‘operational prep of the battlefield,’ according to a well informed source,” Harp reported citing a ‘well informed’ source. “The military unit is JSOC’s Advance Force Operations, including members of Delta Force and SEAL Team 6.”
The developments are concerning to Americans who want to avoid entanglement in a foreign war, but Harp cautioned readers not to necessarily presume this is an “escalation.”
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In 1965, the world was only 20 years removed from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Our leaders were also relatively normal. Now, 50 years later, our history has been erased and political leadership is gender confused and poorly educated.
I agree. I would guess they are there training folks to use things like small ATGMs (NLAWs, etc) and also more esoteric stuff.
“So, you’re buying into the threats from Putin, and the hysteria about a nuclear war? “
When has he not kept his word?
“CIA contractors helping to arm and train guerilla operations.”
Cuz Ukrainians need training?
They have 100 years of guerrilla experience.
American advisors with no congressional approval? Well, that’s never happened before. I’m sure a number have been killed. I don’t think that has ever happened before. The place would offer some very large profits for American independent contractors, profits coming from possibly US military or intelligence dark money. Well, that’s never happened before either.
Bad
Bad
Bad
If true.
They will be missiled up the yang. Then what?
Then to drive home the point set off a USA firework over Moscow.
They haven’t fought one recently on this scale and with Western weapons. They aren’t wholly incapable. This is more to assist, not develop skills they don’t possess at all.
The difference is that even then the halls of DC were filled with Commie miles and traitors.
I doubt that Moscow and Peking are filled with those who are secretly working for D.C.
Here’s how we got into Vietnam.
https://www.csmonitor.com/1991/1119/19182.html
Reston on Who’s to Blame for Vietnam
November 19, 1991
By Godfrey Sperling
NO one has provided more persuasive evidence that it was President John F. Kennedy who got the United States into the Vietnam war than James Reston in his recently published memoir, “Deadline.”
Describing his interview with Mr. Kennedy following the young president’s summit with Nikita Khrushchev in Vienna, Mr. Reston has this to say: “I remember that Saturday morning very well. He (Kennedy) arrived at the US embassy (in Vienna) over an hour late, shaken and angry at having been delayed by an unexpected extra meeting with the Soviet leader.
He was wearing a hat - unusual for him - and he pushed it down over his forehead, sat down on a couch beside me, and sighed. I said it must have been a rough session. Much rougher than he had expected, he said.”
Kennedy then told Reston that Mr. Khrushchev had threatened him, warning that if the US did not agree to communist control over access to Berlin, the Soviet Union would proceed unilaterally to dominate the routes from Western Europe to Berlin. Kennedy said that he replied that the US would fight to maintain access to its garrison in Berlin if necessary.
Kennedy then went on to tell Reston that he felt sure that Khrushchev thought that anybody who had made such a mess of the Cuban invasion had no judgment. “Khrushchev,” writes Reston, “had treated Kennedy with contempt, even challenging his courage, and whatever else Kennedy may have lacked, he didn’t lack courage. He felt he had to act.”
Soon thereafter Kennedy sent more advisers to the battlefront in Vietnam. “This, I thought,” Reston continues, “was a critical mistake. Once Kennedy had over 15,000 ‘advisers’ engaged not only in giving advice but also in giving support on the battlefield. US power and prestige were thought by many officials in Washington and in Asian capitals to be committed.” And here is Reston’s assessment of the “who done it” argument that still is being waged - of who it was that got the US into what became a winless war that killed many Americans and finally sapped morale on the homefront.
“No doubt, as President, Johnson was more responsible for commiting the US to that struggle (he eventually had 500,000 Americans in the war), but in my view Kennedy started the slide.” Defenders of Kennedy on this issue usually point to Robert Kennedy’s denial that his brother had any intention of going to war in Vietnam. Reston writes: “Robert Kennedy, eager to protect his brother from blame, always denied that the President intended to increase the nation’s commitment to Vietnam, and also denied that the Kennedy-Khrushchev meeting in Vienna had anything to do with it.
But he didn’t hear what his brother said to me in the Vienna embassy, and I did.” This is not just another reporter telling us of how something important happened. This is James Reston, one of the most respected men in American journalism.
American soldiers covertly deployed in a foreign country with no congressional approval.
Real life “Clear and Present Danger” scenario.
Thank you, that provides context. I’m pretty sure we will need to start credibly threatening with ours for Russia to stop.
If Russia destroys Ukraine because his nuclear threats let him, and NATO and the West watch it happen, I’m not reassured NATO and the West will act decisively if Russia keeps rolling into,say, Poland.
What have we learned from history?
BTW, I’m pretty sure WW3 has already started and we just havent fully tumbled to clear awareness of it yet. FWIW.
Bammy gave the Mullahs BILLIONS of our tax dollars shipped over on pallets. Where and when was the vote to appropriate that in the House of Representatives? I’m waiting.
Because at that time, the cold war was in full progress and the issue of MAD was forefront.
Different mindset altogether.
BTW, that conflict was brought to you by..France, and the treaty signed after WW1.
All present conflicts in this modern day world are a result of WW1. All of them.
Deepstate is becoming deepshiite.
Rolling Stone? Hardly credible.
bloody Vietnam, BOHICA!!!
When has he not kept his word?
***When he signed the Budapest Memorandum assuring Ukrainian sovereignty and borders.
“I would be surprised if they were not there, plus a bunch of CIA contractors helping to arm and train guerilla operations.”
Oh, I am fairly confident we have some CIA assets in Ukraine, but I doubt we have any US military assets engaged in anything, except perhaps as observers.
WW3 already here, we just havent gotten to situational awareness of it yet?
What do you or others here think?
I think we and our allies are already in it and we need to adjust our thinking and planning to reflect it.
Change my mind, please. :/
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