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Update on the Ukrainian Front
Paul Craig Roberts Institute for Political Economy ^ | 01/29/22 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 01/30/2022 7:28:30 AM PST by Enlightened1

It is over. Putin has won.

Victoria Nuland, the neoconservative war monger appointed Undersecretary of State by the White House fool, announced Washington’s surrender when she called on China to use its influence with Russia to save Ukraine from invasion. She thus acknowledges what everyone had already concluded: the US and NATO lack the capability.

Washington’s surrender followed the request of the Ukrainian president that Washington stop the “Russian invasion” propaganda as there were no signs of an invasion being prepared and Washington’s rhetoric was too provocative. Germany refused flyover permission to the UK for arms deliveries to Ukraine. Two NATO members announced that they would not send troops if NATO got involved in Ukraine. Washington saw the writing on the wall.

Most countries saw Washington’s refusal to agree to the Russian mutual security proposal as unreasonable and dangerous. Moreover, Washington’s strategy of arming and training the Ukrainians and provoking them into a major attack on the Donbass Russians has failed. Ukraine knows that Russia will not permit any significant damage to Donbass. Moreover, Ukrainians are unsure they could even defeat the Donbass army, which is probably armed with the new Russian high impact weapons. Ukraine understands that Russia can wipe out its forces with conventional missiles without sending troops across the border. The Ukrainians also know that no one will be coming to their aid. The Pentagon itself announced that no US troops will be sent to Ukraine.

The fact that Washington publicly rejected the Russian proposal means nothing as Washington has no alternative but to accept it. The Russian foot came down hard, as it needed to do, and everyone including Washington understands that Ukraine will never be a member of NATO.

Th US/NATO missile bases in Poland and Romania will be quietly removed over time. Washington will continue to bluster and threaten but is unable to take any action. The diplomatic Russians will allow Washington to save face in some arranged way.

All that is necessary at this point is that the diplomats in the Russian foreign ministry, who tend to put too much faith in signed documents, and Russian hardliners understand that Washington’s rejection of the proposal has been rendered meaningless and that Putin has won.

The world has adjusted to Russia’s inflexible demand and unmatched military superiority backed up by China.

In view of the appearance on the scene of long overdue Russian assertiveness, I expect Washington to draw in its horns and to move toward a more cooperative and peaceful position.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: agitprop; china; hoax; kgb; lies; nato; paulcraigroberts; propaganda; putin; russia; troll; trollfarm; ukraine; ussr; victorianuland; washington
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1 posted on 01/30/2022 7:28:30 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Despicable Russian propaganda, or a script for the next Tucker Carlson show.
“The world has adjusted to Russia’s inflexible demand and unmatched military superiority backed up by China.”


2 posted on 01/30/2022 7:35:27 AM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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China would very much like to receive the gas and oil that Putin now sells to Europe. The Chinese would be more than willing to finance any Russian cash shortages for some long term considerations. Putin no doubt is upsetting his generals by delaying this action until the Winter Olympics in China are concluded. Very much doubt the US will get any cooperation from China to restrict Putin.


3 posted on 01/30/2022 7:37:05 AM PST by allendale
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“She thus acknowledges what everyone had already concluded: the US and NATO lack the capability.”

We lack the will.


4 posted on 01/30/2022 7:45:33 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

“We lack the will”.

You have it backwards. If there is no capability, the “Will” to do something doesn’t matter.

USA out of NATO and Europe. We no longer have any business in Europe.

Let Europe stew in it’s own juices.


5 posted on 01/30/2022 7:51:26 AM PST by laplata
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The Will to do what? Poke our noses into every little thing that doesn’t concern us?


6 posted on 01/30/2022 7:52:32 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Enlightened1
Most countries saw Washington’s refusal to agree to the Russian mutual security proposal

Pure pro-Russian BS. That "Russian mutual security proposal" is Putin's crazy demand that NATO leave eastern Europe: including Poland, the former Soviet countries of Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, returning those countries to "captive nations" status.

7 posted on 01/30/2022 8:00:27 AM PST by tlozo
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Biden and his handlers were out-foxed by Putin.

Putin basically broke up NATO.

Biden energy policies totally backfired.

Germany didn’t need to be dependent on Russian energy but Biden insured that by cutting American energy production and begging energy producers like OPEC to fill in the gap.

Russia has filled one big gap.


8 posted on 01/30/2022 8:01:31 AM PST by laplata
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To: Enlightened1

Ukrainian Front?

What, have they brought back Marshall Zhukov, or something?


9 posted on 01/30/2022 8:02:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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“Biden and his handlers were out-foxed by Putin.”

Not hard to do.


10 posted on 01/30/2022 8:17:55 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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“What, have they brought back Marshall Zhukov, or something?”

I hope not. Zhukov was a very capable general.


11 posted on 01/30/2022 8:19:03 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Yep. Everything the Left does backfires on them because it’s always about ideology.


12 posted on 01/30/2022 8:20:47 AM PST by laplata
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To: Enlightened1
Victoria Nuland, the neoconservative war monger appointed Undersecretary of State by the White House fool, announced Washington’s surrender when she called on China to use its influence with Russia to save Ukraine from invasion.

These are the same people who gave us never-ending war and chaos in Libya, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, now Ukraine - and within the United States itself.

There's no limit to their stupidity.

13 posted on 01/30/2022 8:22:06 AM PST by PGR88
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To: ought-six

And Zhukov had millions under his command, not a piddly 120,000.


14 posted on 01/30/2022 8:22:25 AM PST by laplata
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“And Zhukov had millions under his command, not a piddly 120,000.”

Not always.

An interesting anecdote: Zhukov commanded the attack that crushed Berlin and pretty much ended the war in Europe. Zhukov ordered his troops to locate Hitler, or his body. Unbeknownst to Zhukov, Stalin’s toadies had found the body, and, under Stalin’s orders, Zhukov was not told about it, and was only informed 15 years later.


15 posted on 01/30/2022 8:36:46 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Enlightened1

Be gone troll.


16 posted on 01/30/2022 8:41:37 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: tlozo

Exactly.


17 posted on 01/30/2022 8:42:35 AM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: MercyFlush

Posting an article is NOT being troll.

Commenting the way you did is being a troll.

How about an intelligent counter point?

By the way, Ukrainians are confirming this is the Biden Admin hyping things up and trying to start a war. See the links below.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/01/28/ukraine-releases-photos-of-president-zelensky-after-controversial-biden-phone-call/

https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2022/01/28/zelensky-prioritizes-ukraines-financial-stability-biden-call-russia-panic-threatens-economy/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/01/25/ukraine-says-destabilization-fueled-by-biden-admin-hysteria-not-russia/


18 posted on 01/30/2022 9:02:14 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: ought-six

I am familiar with that theory. Thanks.


19 posted on 01/30/2022 9:03:56 AM PST by laplata
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To: MercyFlush

You seem to be the troll.


20 posted on 01/30/2022 9:05:45 AM PST by laplata
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