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Columbus Knew the Earth Was Round (and so did everyone else) (short video)
TimeGhost History (on YouTube) ^ | Oct 6, 2021 | Indy Neidell & Spartacus Olsson

Posted on 10/06/2021 5:25:40 PM PDT by Salman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Tbw5q219w


TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; astronomy; catholic; columbus; eratosthenes; godsgravesglyphs; indyneidell; oblatespheroid; science; spartacusolsson; timeghosthistory; youtube
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You probably know the basic facts of this, but this goes into detail about who made up the stories about people thinking the world was flat, and why.

The hosts even call it "fake news".

1 posted on 10/06/2021 5:25:40 PM PDT by Salman
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To: Salman

I met a flat earther for real

It took 10 seconds to get in a “you’re kidding right?” before I concluded he was a true believer

He’s part of the 38% who think Biden is doing a good job

Ship of idiots


2 posted on 10/06/2021 5:31:20 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Salman

When these guys get around to the end of the WW II channel I hope they present the particulars of the planned Downfall assault on the Japanese home islands.


3 posted on 10/06/2021 5:33:49 PM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Salman

What! But, but, but the Google map is flat. :)


4 posted on 10/06/2021 5:47:23 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Salman

Most of the intellectual elite knew about Eritosthenes’s calculation of the circumference of the earth by Columbus’s time.
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200606/history.cfm#:~:text=Values%20between%20500%20and%20about,slightly%20less%20around%20the%20poles.

The gamble Columbus presented was that he thought it was much smaller than that.

He was proceeding from tales of Basque fishermen and others taking tons of codfish off some western lands. The Basque had reason to keep their discovery secret, like a protected secret recipe or doohickey for bizness.


5 posted on 10/06/2021 5:53:07 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Salman

The thing that really freaked them out was when they saw that sailing around the world threw the ship’s calendar off by one day.

They quickly figured out the puzzle and started using chronometers in ships.


6 posted on 10/06/2021 6:10:14 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: Salman
Even in 1492 there was no argument that the earth was round. Columbus was one of many who believed the earth was pear-shaped, considerably smaller in circumference in the northern and southern latitudes than it actually is.

Columbus also was one of many who had fallen for the ballyhoo of Marco Polo, who drastically exaggerated the size of Asia to make his adventures there and back seem all the more heroic.

So Columbus believed the earth wasn't as big around as actually it is at about 25° north latitude. And he also believed Asia extended far further to the east than it actually does. Between them, he underestimated the sailing distance to Asia by about 5000 miles.

Which should have been a fatal miscalculation because his ships could only sail about 3500 miles before running out of food and water. So the typical strategy was to sail 1750 miles from land and if they hadn't found anything, turn around and come home. But Columbus sailed about 3100 miles before he made landfall in the Bahamas.

So if he had not been rescued by a completely theretofore unknown continent (or two), he'd would have never been heard from again. Instead, pure blind luck (and some guts) made him immortal.

7 posted on 10/06/2021 6:20:11 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: fruser1

Never thought about that but if course it’s true...makes it a little tricky to keep a ship’s log or for someone reading it later to be sure of the “when” part.


8 posted on 10/06/2021 7:15:31 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Paal Gulli

My governor would have branded him a knucklehead.


9 posted on 10/06/2021 7:17:02 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Paal Gulli

Columbus encountered the Bahamas, Cuba and Hispaniola on his first voyage. He only saw bits of South America and North America on later voyages.


10 posted on 10/06/2021 7:20:00 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: fruser1

Not until they created accurate clocks that would work on a ship. check out Longitude movie or series.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192263/


11 posted on 10/06/2021 8:07:51 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: kvanbrunt2

A friend of mine, a retired engineer, built a reproduction of the H1, Harrison’s first clock. I did a series of Photographs of it, one of which made the cover of the March/April 2013 Watch and Clock Bulletin, (Vol. 55/2 Number 402)in which he wrote an article about the making of the clock.

Harrison’s story is pretty cool.


12 posted on 10/06/2021 10:39:05 PM PDT by moonhawk (Biden: Not my President. Fauci: not my doctor. Me: not their bitch. You:???)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Columbus encountered the Bahamas, Cuba and Hispaniola on his first voyage. He only saw bits of South America and North America on later voyages.

"Although the Bahamas is situated in the Caribbean region of North America, it is located in the Atlantic ocean and not the Caribbean Sea. "

The Bahamas are in North America, as are Cuba and Hispanola. They're just not part of the continent.

13 posted on 10/06/2021 10:59:10 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Eddie01

Tell the flat earther the world isn’t flat because if it were puddy cats would have pushed everything off the edge.


14 posted on 10/06/2021 11:58:41 PM PDT by jmacusa (America.Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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To: kvanbrunt2

An April 1964 discussion with Dr Arnold Shostak about the hydrogen maser.led my father to start his Timation Navsat. With modification of the the signal it became GPS. See my website (and book!) www.gpsdeclassified.com


15 posted on 10/07/2021 1:11:39 AM PDT by Richard from IL
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To: Salman

The old expression about “sailing off the edge of the Earth” originated from the fact that sailors were heavily dependent on the North Star to navigate. When they sailed far south, the North Star approached, and finally disappeared below, the horizon. They had “sailed over the edge”.


16 posted on 10/07/2021 1:59:32 AM PDT by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: Kevmo

There is an interesting history of the Viking Greenlanders. The author postulates that their disappearance was possibly due to the Portuguese (Basque?) recruiting of the limited number of Greenland males for fishing crews, and not so much climate change.

If there is any interest, I will do some more digging to find the title.


17 posted on 10/07/2021 3:02:53 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: fruser1

https://www.amazon.com/Longitude-Genius-Greatest-Scientific-Problem/dp/080271529X/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=longitude&qid=1633603790&s=books&sr=1-1

Great book. Fast read.


18 posted on 10/07/2021 3:50:50 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Salman

It especially bothers me when people say that the Bible was the reason people thought the Earth was flat.

Isa. 40:22 and Job 26:7


19 posted on 10/07/2021 5:58:20 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Western Phil

I’d be interested but I’m pretty sure they were overwhelmed by the “little Ice age”. The indigenous Inuit could handle the cold and hunt locally while the Vikings depended upon crops to survive and didn’t hunt whales & seals. The Vikings’ superiority was their ships. Once they were outnumbered on land, they could be pushed back to the sea as long as a tribe was willing to sustain high casualties.


20 posted on 10/07/2021 8:01:28 AM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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