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Your Manners And Competence Are Deeply Problematic
David Thompson ^ | 20 Sep 2021 | DavidThompson

Posted on 09/20/2021 10:30:41 AM PDT by Rummyfan

At a time when, despite increases in school funding, almost 80% of black and Hispanic eighth graders have been deemed “not proficient” in maths or reading, it’s unclear how improvements might be made while simultaneously graduating high-school pupils regardless of their performance, or even their attendance, and while shying from the existence of such terribly oppressive things as correct answers.

But as we’ve been told, more than once, “suspending proficiency requirements” will – in ways that are somewhat unobvious – “benefit” those on whom these things are inflicted.

And parents will doubtless take comfort in the feats of mental contortion performed by those to whom their children are entrusted – including the self-satisfied insistence, by high-school teacher Josh Thompson, that behaving in class is “white supremacy.” You see, paying attention and not being disruptive, so that things might actually be learned, if only by some of those present, is “passive” and a product of “white culture.” And expecting basic standards of behaviour – say, respecting other pupils who are trying to hear what’s being said - is “the definition of white supremacy,” and therefore very, very bad.

A position, incidentally, that’s more common that one might think.

And then there’s the spectacle of Virginia Tech educator Dr Crystal Duncan Lane apologising to her class for the sin of being white – in itself, we’re told, proof of “innate racism.” A claim that not only constitutes a kind of racial gaslighting, but which, in the name of progressive piety, also manages to insult any students with pale skin, and from whom, a pantomime of pretentious collective guilt is evidently expected.

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To: EEGator

LOL so true, but hey, I think it was our first ever post-season appearance.


21 posted on 09/20/2021 11:02:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: hoe_cake

It’s like reading a German grammar book in 1939.

They just switched the players.


22 posted on 09/20/2021 11:04:32 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dfwgator

So you were there during “Crockett’s” beginnings...


23 posted on 09/20/2021 11:07:13 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Jewbacca
It’s like reading a German grammar book in 1939.


24 posted on 09/20/2021 11:08:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan

teachers are all for this because now they have cover for their incompetency.....no standards...no problem.....


25 posted on 09/20/2021 11:09:58 AM PDT by cherry
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To: EEGator

26 posted on 09/20/2021 11:10:04 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Is that Elvis?


27 posted on 09/20/2021 11:14:14 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: ComputerGuy

Yep.


28 posted on 09/20/2021 11:15:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan

There was an 80’s book called, “The Graves of Academe” which predicted the demise of our public educational system. For years I believed that the only real problem the US had was its woeful educational system, but now we see the fruits of this problem which are existential threats, economically and politically. And we are importing more difficult to assimilate and educate “migrants” every day.

Blacks are more difficult to educate than whites. Hispanics are next and Asians are easiest. It follows the IQ distribution. On top of that blacks score high in self esteem, meaning they take offense easily when criticized. Schooling for them is therefore difficult.

Sure there are intelligent blacks and Hispanics but they get pressured to conform by their more numerous brothers.

The only solution is private schooling with discipline and grade advancement only with measured achievement. Give everyone 12 years of subsidized education with amounts income determined. If students can’t or won’t learn, they are excused but can come back later if they want to finish. Make schools teaching institutions; not warehouses for young people.

Of course this will never happen as the politicians and unions won’t allow it.


29 posted on 09/20/2021 11:19:05 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proved melanin is just enough to win elections Trump proves being good is not enough..)
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To: dfwgator; ComputerGuy

I’m bringing the Crockett dress apparel back.


30 posted on 09/20/2021 11:22:23 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Rummyfan

Oregon students shouldn’t have to prove they can write or do math to get a diploma, lawmakers decide!

The Oregonian ^ | Jun 16, 2021 | Betsy Hammond
Posted on 6/21/2021, 4:16:01 PM by george76

Students in the class of 2021 did not have to prove they could write or do math at a basic level to earn their diplomas. A bill headed to Gov. Kate Brown would prohibit any such requirement at least until 2027.

A bill to prohibit Oregon schools from requiring students to show they can read, write and do math at a basic high school level is headed to Gov. Kate Brown after lawmakers gave final approval Wednesday.

The idea is to hit pause on the requirements, in place since 2009 but already suspended during the pandemic, at least until the class of 2024 gets their diplomas and for Oregon to thoughtfully reexamine its graduation requirements in the meantime. A report recommending what the new standards should be is due to the Legislature and Oregon Board of Education by September 2022.

But since Oregon has long insisted it would not impose new graduation requirements on students who have already begun high school, new requirements would not take effect until the class of 2027 at the very earliest. So at least five more classes could be expected to graduate without needing to demonstrate roughly 10th grade level proficiency in math and writing.

The decision to remove the skills requirement was largely but not entirely a party-line one, with Democrats staunchly opposing the proficiency rules and Republicans decrying what they see as a lowering of academic standards.

A spokesperson for Brown told The Oregonian/OregonLive Wednesday she has yet to decide whether she will sign the bill, veto it or allow it to become law without her signature. (She proudly signed the bill!)

Oregone, unlike other states, did not require students to pass a particular standardized test or any test at all. Students could show their ability to use English and do math via about five different tests or by completing an in-depth classroom project judged by their own teachers. In reality, most schools relied primarily on standardized tests and most students easily passed them.

But demonstrating proficiency proved most challenging for students who learned English as a second language, students with disabilities and students of color.

Officials on the Oregon Board of Education, when they enacted the “essential skills” graduation requirement more than a decade ago, said they hoped no student would be denied a diploma for lacking the skills but that schools would step up and help juniors and seniors who hadn’t mastered enough English or math to do so. Many high schools created special math and writing workshop classes for seniors who needed to demonstrate those skills to get their diplomas.

The bill calls on the diverse committee studying graduation requirements to come up with a recommendation “with the goal of ensuring that the processes and outcomes related to the requirements for high school diplomas are equitable, accessible and inclusive.”

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https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2021/06/oregon-students-shouldnt-have-to-prove-they-can-write-or-do-math-to-get-a-diploma-lawmakers-decide.html


It is simple, Eliminating schools as places to learn and making them serve as day care centers all day. Beginning with breakfast, morning breaks, lunch, afternoon breaks and a dinner before going home. Maybe midnight basketball.

Teachers and their unions will still paid. Any so called classes will be conducted by supposedly graduates, and the highly paid teachers will monitor those former classes on Zoom.

More Gardeners, janitors and other custodial care at the former schools will require more union workers.

So our taxes will go up for the above B$!


31 posted on 09/20/2021 11:23:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( In your private, business, social and what ever life!: "All ways, ask Cui Bono?"!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Sometimes I think the education system should be almost like a prison. If you want to drift along and not amount to anything, you can do that.

But if you want to get out, you need to work at it. Some good behavior, some diligent studying, and you can get out of that system and start to attend a school where students and teachers expect real learning to occur.

And if you never show that initiative to get out of the prison/school, then you just stay right there your whole life and the guards get a whole lot meaner when you you turn 18.


32 posted on 09/20/2021 11:29:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: Rummyfan

You can’t expect blacks and mexicans to act civilized /random_liberal

Liberals are the most racist people in America.


33 posted on 09/20/2021 12:58:46 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Rummyfan; ClearCase_guy; Jewbacca; hoe_cake; Sequoyah101; cherry; JeanLM
I sent this letter to Oregon papers and the school board members where I live.

Yep. That is a primary reason we and my two boy’s families may soon end up in Wyoming. Retain Mike

From: Lars Larson Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 1:47 PM To: Retain Mike Subject: Re: Eliminating Educational Standards

pretty crazy, isn't it?

On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 1:44 PM Nolan Nelson wrote:

As a new school year begins, students will no longer be required to demonstrate skills in reading, writing, and math. For the next five years, an Oregon high school diploma will be no guarantee of academic achievement, but only of participation in a system with undefined parameters. The legislators, school districts, and governor supporting Senate Bill 744 saw that this “will benefit Oregon’s Black, Latino, Latina, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color”.

So now we have moved to the position held by many 19th century abolitionists. When I read The Life and Times of Fredrick Douglass, one passage always stayed with me. After speaking to an abolitionist audience, Douglass considered the evening a great success, because he concluded his talk believing these people were convinced, he was equally human with them. He mentioned this as a significant event, because even the strongest supporters of black freedom questioned whether these people were as fully human. If educators would treat these people as individuals, they would design programs allowing an opportunity for commensurate achievement.

I remember Dr. Martin Luther King saying, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character…..little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.” I guess the statement still makes sense to me.

34 posted on 09/20/2021 12:58:49 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
“Who got my back?”

No one.

You have to just put on your big boy (or girl) pants and decide if you will submit or not.

35 posted on 09/20/2021 1:03:42 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I had my emotional DNA done. Turns out I am a reincarnation of Subadar Prag Tewarri.)
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To: Jewbacca
Back in collage I had a book of essays.

One was written by a young black (or as she put it colored) girl who attended my collage back about 1910. She wrote about how her grandparent were born slaves and became share croppers with no education, her parents ran a small store with a sixth grade education and she was going to collage. She was so happy because things were getting better and better. Did she run into obstacles? Of course! But that was ok because her life was so much better then it could have been.

That essay was removed in the next edition.

36 posted on 09/20/2021 1:10:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I had my emotional DNA done. Turns out I am a reincarnation of Subadar Prag Tewarri.)
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To: EEGator

“I’m hoping self segregation continues, along with more whites homeschooling.”

Jews had to do that long ago.

Problem we’re running into is the Hebrew schools run in two flavors: (1) uber-liberal cess pool or (2) Yeshiva-like psuedo culty with tendency to reject math/science in favor of religion (and not particularly great for girls, and I have 8 of them).

Israel has plenty of tough modern Orthodox schools that are both religiously traditional and science/math rigorous.

I think I’m about to lose my job here anyway due to Biden’s vaccine mandate, so there’s that.


37 posted on 09/20/2021 1:22:12 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: dfwgator

Yep.

Welcome to the ghetto. At least we have latkes.


38 posted on 09/20/2021 1:23:30 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Rummyfan
almost 80% of black and Hispanic eighth graders have been deemed “not proficient” in maths or reading

I'd add hearing/listening comprehension, As in when a LEO gives a command to stop or show your hands, why do 80% either reach in their pocket or immediately run?

39 posted on 09/20/2021 1:29:36 PM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: Jewbacca

LOL.
How many children do you have?
What’s your field of work?


40 posted on 09/20/2021 1:30:57 PM PDT by EEGator
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