Posted on 07/15/2021 9:28:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
You know the election audits are over the target when Democrats are screaming about them being a waste of time. As the Arizona audits continue and audits in Georgia show significant discrepancies, the left wing politicos have dropped all semblance of rationale as they hiss and boo about “big lies” and Donald Trump.
As Tucker Carlson recently pointed out, if there’s no there there, what’s the big deal? One would think progressives would be excited to prove wrong those who think the election was fraudulent. One would think they’d be encouraging these audits, if for no other reason than to dunk on conservatives when they are ultimately proven right. And if those progressives think that audits themselves may be corrupt, does that not reinforce the point that perhaps the American people should concerned about election integrity?
There is no mechanism by which Donald Trump could be reinstated as POTUS in the event of proof of massive fraud. While there are many conservatives that hold on to this hope, it is little more than that…hope. Still, the audits are perfectly reasonable and even necessary if the American people are ever expected to move on from this and trust future election results. To avoid the chaos that is currently tearing our nation apart, it only makes sense to make every effort to bring transparency into the elections process.
In an Arizona Senate hearing on the audits, Senator Karen Fann gave an excellent and reasonable explanation as to why these audits matter, and in fact why they are absolutely imperative. Listening to her reasoning, it is hard to imagine anyone taking issue with a process that allows voters to peek at the integrity – or lack thereof – of their own election process.
Fann says these audits aren’t about Trump, they are about transparency and restoring faith in the election process for the American people. She reminded the detractors that “voters are constituents” and they have expressed fear and reservations about vote-counting in their state. As representatives of their constituents, it is literally the state senate’s job to respond to those questions and provide answers, if that is what the people desire. The Senate has the responsibility to ease those fears by proving them wrong or by proving them right and passing laws to prevent such a thing from ever happening again.
It’s hardly radical, but to hear the Democrats tell it, it’s equivalent to a Hitlerian coup.
Fann’s explanation is about as logical and reasonable as it gets. It’s hard to find a reason to say she is wrong here. The audit is for the people, not the pundits or the Swamp.
If our procedures perhaps are lacking in some way, this is a great opportunity — let’s fix that, because that’s what this body does. We pass laws.
Someone tell that to the Texas Senate Democrats.
Here is the full transcript of her brief remarks on the issue. Video below.
[We want to] make sure everybody knew, which we told you as well in the very beginning, is, this is not about Trump. This is not about overturning the election. This has never been about anything other than election integrity. This is the epitome of what America stands for, and if we do not have confidence in our electoral process, then everything we do in life is jeopardized. There was a poll that was recently done that [said] 45% of people in Arizona, according to that poll, believe that we have serious problems with our elections. Whether that is true or not, whether they are rumors and unfounded accusations or legitimate problems, for whatever reason, as a Senate body, we felt that it was our obligation and our duty to answer.
Our voters are constituents. [We must] answer those questions and either confirm what they were afraid of or thought or heard, or that we prove that those things were not true so that they could go back to the polls and they could vote with confidence knowing that their ballot is sacred.
I just wanted to make sure that everybody is fully aware that this is all this is about, is election integrity, and are we following the rules, are we following the procedures, have we done everything we possibly can to make sure these are fair, clean, honest elections?
If we do find anything, if you do find anything of whether we can pass laws that would help ensure that we have more Integrity in the future, if our procedures perhaps are lacking in some way, this is a great opportunity for us to be able to say, “Let’s fix that,” because that’s what the body does. We pass laws.
We have accomplished this because the Constitution gives us the right to subpoena information for the purpose of passing laws. And with that information gives us the tools to be able to either tweak existing legislation or create new legislation to make sure that the sanctity is always there.
Senator Karen Fann: “This is not about Trump. This is not about overturning the election. This has never been about anything other than election integrity.” pic.twitter.com/zDY03mNSmc
— Agent Brandoe The PipeHitter (@BYounger13) July 15, 2021
It was all about saving the nation, or so the weak-minded thought.
There is no mechanism by which Donald Trump could be reinstated as POTUS in the event of proof of massive fraud …Absolute garbage. Guess these Red State guys hate the Constitution and want the country to descend into civil war.
How so? What is the procedure then?
RE: Guess these Red State guys hate the Constitution and want the country to descend into civil war.
I’m all ears.... Let’s say the Arizona audit discovers massive irregularities that call into question Joe Biden’s victory in that state.
Then... what should be the next steps? ( remember, the Arizona electors have already given their vote to Joe Biden ).
“Then... what should be the next steps? ( remember, the Arizona electors have already given their vote to Joe Biden”
I was thinking about this too. Every state election was certified. The electors voted as instructed by each state, they did nothing wrong. By following their orders they elected Joe Biden. The certification challenge date passed and no objections stuck.
Revolution is the only way to overturn the election. There’s nothing in the law that allows it.
I agree we are stuck with Dog-Face and Pony Soldier. Once the electors vote was ratified it was over.
But, senators are directly elected. If there was sufficient fraud that republicans lost the senate, and failed to take the house, those seats could change. It wouldn’t be pretty, and pantiesinawadfa and Burn,Loot, and Murder would probably take to the streets but it could happen.
And, the republicans coming into office might just have a chip on their shoulder.
Additionally, the mid terms next year would be an absolute bloodbath for the demonrats.
That is my hope.
Regardless of the vote count, Biden certified by the Electoral College, the House of Representatives and was inaugurated. Please explain the constitutional method by which Trump would be inaugurated.
The best possible outcomes from this are 1) the nation gets exposed to Dem treachery, 2) election laws are tightened, rolls purged, voter ID made the rule across the land, and people committing election fraud get capital punishment, 3) the states with massive fraud recall their Senators, vacate their Senate seats, and conduct new and fair elections.
Revolution is always an option, but it should be the least desirable recourse after all the others have been considered.
Establishing fact and historical accuracy is ALWAYS worth pursuing for it’s own sake, irrespective of any other consideration.
If the truth casts doubt on the legitimacy of this criminal, destructive, and tyrannically inclined regime, then so much the better.
But there is a constitutional way that Trump could be reinstated. This method is utterly unlikely and improbable, because it would involve a regard for honor and integrity that the ruthless, unscrupulous and evil DEMONRATS are utterly devoid of. But were it to be coupled with the threat of criminal indictment for crimes against the state due to willful complicity with massive electoral fraud or other such adjudication, then it might have an outside chance. (VERY outside, I admit)
On Oct 10 1973, while facing charges of corruption and tax evasion, Spiro Agnew resigned the vice presidency, and President Nixon appointed Gerald Ford to the position. We all know what happened subsequently when Richard Nixon was facing a bi-partisan impeachment over Watergate. Ford became POTUS.
Similarly, envision Harris being compelled to resign after actual evidence has established beyond any doubt that massive electoral fraud has occurred, along with the already well established constitutional violations involving the Article II elector process and state legislative authority; and a revelation that Trump was actually the electoral victor. Harris is compelled to resign, whether because of pressure from potential prosecution, or because she has been “convinced” that her resignation is in the best interests of the nation. Biden, under overwhelming pressure to avoid the joint, appoints Trump as VP to avoid prosecution. Biden then resigns, and Trump becomes POTUS legally and constitutionally. The XXV amendment does require a majority confirmation of both houses of Congress, and that is where the public pressure would intervene to demand such a confirmation.
Again, all this relies upon the electoral fraud being established and widely accepted, (which I believe will ultimately occur) and a certain measure of honor and integrity from the least likely possessors of it in the nation, the DEMONRATS. So like others here who engage in wild speculation, I am simply posing food for thought.
But notice, there IS a way for Trump to be reinstated, (if not by August) no matter how unlikely, and it seems to me to be a better solution then one arrived at by force of arms.
There is a high likelihood that Trump may have received as many as 85 million votes. Imagine the political pressure from just 10% of this pissed off electorate, in possession of solid evidence that the election had been stolen from them by the connivance of foreign state actors and corrupt Blue State DEMONRATS. Again, massive political pressure is an imperative for this option to even have a prayer.
The ascension of Gerald Ford to the presidency was as unlikely a political event as any in history, until the threat of punitive adjudication forced a heretofore unprecedented two executive branch resignations.
No matter what, we must NEVER stop trying to arrive at the truth of this greatest fraud in US history.
It's all very simple you see. First, the impact of the election audits (which are currently being actively thwarted, blocked or minimized in the courts, mass media, state legislatures, and at every level of government bureaucracy) will tip public opinion and cause massive street demonstrations throughout the nation which disrupt the normal operation of government (just like the one in early January where a few hundred protestors tresspassed, most of them unwittingly, and disrupted congress for a few hours resulting in the full force of the FBI and DOJ to be brought against them. Hundreds still remain jailed for trespassing because the process is the punishment).
That massive public inertia, which will apparently be generated solely from right-leaning blogs who overuse the word "bombshell" because they're the only media outlets who cover the stories. will cause Kamala Harris, once the most liberal senator in the Senate, to step down and abdicate her position in deference to the "true" winner of the election. The senators from Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, and Pennsylvania (seven out of the eight of them are Democrats and the lone republican voted for one of Trump's impeachment articles) will then lead the installation process of Trump as Vice President where he will then immediately be installed as President as Biden resigns due to ill health in exchange for a pardon for his family members.
If you believe any of this is even remotely plausible, in this scenario, a cocker spaniel named Bud will eventually be named Secretary of the Navy and Jared Kushner wins a silver medal in women's gymnastics at the Tokyo olympics on the balance beam.
I love how the self important author thinks she can pronounce her opinion as fact.
Which is why I keep pushing this;
.What the Republicans should be doing is using the Georgia reform and doing is this *REVIEW THOSE GEORGIA SENATE ELECTION RESULTS
Answer Biden’s stop order with this :
There were a series of fraudulent voting charges here. Were they enforced and corrected before this election took place ? If they weren’t is not a review called for ?
They were created with the introduction of Covid 19 which the Biden campaign thanks the CCP for doing; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3940857/posts
If the Georgia Secretary of State is in charge of voting he has the responsibility of enforcing the state’s regulations as to who votes. And eliminate those from voter lists who don’t qualify.
Assign prosecutors to personally canvass and investigate. Check if military actually voted by asking them. Identify all voters by checking on legal age their residency and citizenship. If found they do not qualify charge Illegals including state visitors known as snowbirds also include any technical computer fraudulent Italian programming testimony when presenting to the court and get these election results tossed. Because there’s this; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3949751/posts
LINKED HERE ARE REASONS WHY THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING 90% of the military votes went for the Machurian candidate Joe Biden ?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3927647/posts#28 Question Those results
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3924076/posts#30
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3923435/posts#21
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3923157/posts#10
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3922715/posts#18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3923312/posts#11
CHINESE COMMIES DON’T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN * THAT’S WHY THOSE BUSINESSES AND SPORT INDUSTRIES WITH CHINA CONNECTIONS ARE AFRAID THIS COULD HAPPEN WITH THE GEORGIA ELECTION REFORM
The Constitutional method? Try Article 3 Section 3. Claiming that there’s no way out of fraudulent certification is a nonsequitur.
The electors have committed crimes according to the states’ voting rules concerning the electors; they are guilty of fraud and not just mere faithlessness. This is a genuine Constitutional crisis, particularly in face of what Biden is doing with the power he usurped.
The end result of all this should be something I’ve been suggesting since before Election Day last year: The elimination of ALL forms of mail-in voting and early voting.
If you can’t get to a polling location on Election Day, then that’s really too bad. We aren’t going to compromise the integrity of our elections just to accommodate you. Period.
Article 3 Section 3 deals with treason. It doesn't deal with fraud or removal of a president. But, I'm open to suggestion.
Another supposed conservative writer who doesn’t understand what is happening. 🙄
the state legislature can recall those electors because fraudulent certification. then the trump electors can be installed. if the sum is enough to transition power, then the courts will get involved. if the dems say the election has already been certified, inspite of cheating, it is a losing argument. it has never happened before, so the states must remedy this.
What would you say a fraudulent election is?
Anyone remember Bleeding Kansas? We’re experiencing that on a national level, in slow motion.
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