Posted on 07/14/2021 8:21:11 PM PDT by Loud Mime
I am interested in buying a .22 pistol for carry and target shooting. I have been looking at the Beretta M9 22, but recently was impressed with a Taurus model.
Any recommendations? Any ones to stay away from?
The laser wont make a difference to a good shooter. I can ragged hole iron sites at 7 yards just as good as with a laser.
I tend to stay away from lasers on pistols, just another failure item IMO, though I see older shooters making good use of them as the eyes age and cant focus on the front sight as well. Iron sights dont fail unless you manage to strip them off. Most of us arent going to do that.
Good information. Thank ALL OF YOU!
LM
The laser makes a yuge difference to an untrained shooter, and to any shooter in an unorthodox shooting position.
So are you still going for .22? That seemed to be the #1 piece of adviceb, go for a bigger round. But it ignores your initial premise.
For an untrained shooter I think it teaches bad shooting habit, but you are correct about unorthodox shooting.
Wheelguns are accurate and dependable - but a bit slower with the second accurate shot unless you are one of those really experienced match shooters I occasionally encounter.
I have several of each, but prefer an auto for anything evil about to happen and if I'm with my kids in Walmart, it'll be smallish so as not to excite the unintiated.
Whatever you carry, practice, practice, practice!
Great suggestion!
That reminded me that I picked up a couple different colors of neon matt finish acrylic paint at either AC Moore, Michael's or Hobby Lobby years ago for just that purposte. Just pulled an orange one out of the drawer and think I'll do a litte front sight painting this afternoon.
Thanks for the reminder.
I shot a 4 inch post from 20 yards at night. Laser off, 10 shots no hits. Laser on, 9 hits off 10 shots. Don’t scold me about that miss.
I think of my laser as more a directional pointer than a fixed sight.
No scolding. No doubt some sights are better than others in different light conditions, and if its really pitch black night, you have to have some light source even with tritium sights, be it a flash light or the laser. I prefer tritium iron sights in almost all cases, but in total darkness even with those you need a flashlight or gun light.
Let me know how that works out. The fingernail polish neutral base coat is a flat white egg shell color. The red sights seemed to not work very well in low light and the white sights didn’t seem to work well in daylight. The pink really popped for both conditions. You could experiment on an egg and try it out first.
Nothing at all wrong with a .22 for CC. Plenty of good one’s out there. My recommendation is a .380 or 9mm. One shot stoppage makes a lot of sense, especially if you need another 13 rounds for any of their friends that might be ready to pounce on you or your family. My favorite CC is my Beretta 84F. 13+1 .380 and I carry it with a round in the chamber and on safety, double action for the first shot. Easily concealed and plenty of firepower (mine is nickel plated and has walnut grips). Then again, I have never met anyone that wants to get shot with a .22 either.
Other fine guns wound be any CZ or variant (plenty of them out there and many made in Turkey..excellent quality and inexpensive) I Also carry a CZ 75 compact and it’s nearly twin, the Tristar C 100.
Just something to think about: If you are in a situation where you have to use your weapon and you shoot someone, the police will take your gun, guaranteed. I would feel better if they took a good quality $350-$400 gun vs one twice that much.
(14 rounds of .380 gives me a lot of comfort, just saying.)
FBI files had a show on an FBI investigation of the mafia. They recruited an informant who the mafia had recruited because he was such a tough guy. The informant got called in and the mobsters told him he was going to be a bookkeeper, and they had to teach him the process of how betting worked. When he turned around, they put two rounds in the back of his head, with a 380 as I recall, but the ammo must have been old, or he had a really hard head, and the informant turned around to face them, and the mobsters backed up slowly to the door and got out of there.
Article on the mobster here.
https://mafia.wikia.org/wiki/John_Veasey
Not sure how a 380 to the skull bounces off, but the FBI agent said when he heard he went right to the hospital, and mob informant was up and talking about it.
This thread reminds me of motorcycle threads where someone asks “what oil should I use”. And then we are off and running. LOL
My opinion for what it’s worth:
1-if one has no or little experience first carry should be a revolver. 38 spl. More or less idiot proof. I started with a S&W J frame. And glad I did.
2-After sufficient practice and training, a good semi auto. Caliber? For personal carry, a 9mm with top quality self defense ammo works. Ammo technology has progressed immensely in the last several decades. Hand held cannons are great....if you hit the target. A guy on PCP attacks you, the 40 or 45, unless you hit him in the heart or head, isn’t really more effective than a good 9mm. And if you hit him in the heart or head, well the 9mm is just fine. Crazy people are like zombies, they don’t necessarily quit when you hit them several times.
I like my S&W also.
I just bought a Ruger LCP semi .380 and took it out shooting the other day. Was really impressed with the power and it comes with a pocket holster. Cost $249 at Bass Pro Shop.
That's as believable as the fbi file on Trump's golden showers tape, must have been the same agent.
When the hit men shoot, they put the muzzle at the base of the skull and the top of the spine, there is no hard headed skull for the round to "bounce off", just the separation of skull and spine.
Even if they shot him twice in the skull, from point blank range, a 22 short would have killed him {at the very least, knocked him out cold}.
If the fbi is telling this story, consider all of the other bullshit that they have told us.
But Hannity will tell you that 99.9% of all fbi agents are saints. MEH!
There are frangible .22 rounds that do nasty things after impact.
I’d go out and function check that Phoenix, pronto. The heir to the Jennings/Bryco/Raven line of guns. A .22 probably won’t beat itself to death, but I still wouldn’t trust it.
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