If you are not planning on getting mrna shots, remember this as well

[Secret Agent Man]

Everyone undecided, or not taking this vaccine, remember this:

If you are having future scheduled medical procedures done, bank some of your blood ahead of time. These mrna snippets get inside cells, that includes blood cells.

Don’t forget this is another vector where you could wind up with mrna vaccine in you even though you avoided the shot, or haven't decided if you want it or not.

[Faith65]

Thanks!!

[wastedyears]

If you get the vaccine for polio, but still get polio, did you get the real vaccine for polio, or merely a placebo? Maybe a bad batch?

If you get a vaccine, that means you cannot get nor transmit the disease for which you were vaccinated against.

If you get the experimental mRNA treatment and still get the China virus, did you really get a vaccine?

[DugwayDuke]

wastedyears wrote: “If you get the experimental mRNA treatment and still get the China virus, did you really get a vaccine?”

Yes, you certainly did. You’re smart enough to know that any vaccine you take will not provide perfect protection.

[DugwayDuke]

PTBobW wrote: “I also don’t “know” why the ignorant are using “Quotation Marks” when they type the word “Vaccine””

It’s one of the favorite tactics of the anti-vaxxer cult. They will do anything, including posting misleading or all out false information, to discourage vaccinations.

[MinorityRepublican]

It was 94% against the original coronavirus strain. Since then, there are mutant strains so the vaccine’s effectiveness vary.

[ransomnote]

ransomnote: “Blood and body fluids, such as saliva, semen and vaginal fluid, can contain viruses that can be passed on to other people.

If you have contact with a person’s blood or body fluids you could be at risk of HIV, hepatitis B or hepatitis C, or other blood borne illnesses.

Body fluids, such as sweat, tears, vomit or urine may contain and pass on these viruses when blood is present in the fluid, but the risk is low.”
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Do you not understand that the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines contain no viruses or parts of viruses?
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Do you not understand that the HIV virus is a strand of RNA? The Covid virus is a strand of RNA? The mRNA is a strand of RNA? Have you not cracked a book yet? Google is your friend.

[House Atreides]

“Do you not understand that the HIV virus is a strand of RNA? The Covid virus is a strand of RNA? The mRNA is a strand of RNA? Have you not cracked a book yet? Google is your friend.”
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Do you not understand that your kitchen oven is substantially made of METAL? Automobiles are substantially made of METAL. Motorcycles are substantially made of METAL. Have you not cracked a book yet? Google is your friend.

See, I can do a post every bit as inane as yours.

[ransomnote]

I said:
“Do you not understand that the HIV virus is a strand of RNA? The Covid virus is a strand of RNA? The mRNA is a strand of RNA? Have you not cracked a book yet? Google is your friend.”
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You said: Do you not understand that your kitchen oven is substantially made of METAL? Automobiles are substantially made of METAL. Motorcycles are substantially made of METAL. Have you not cracked a book yet? Google is your friend.

See, I can do a post every bit as inane as yours.
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So you are unable to grasp the import of RNA and it’s primary functions and properties. Therefore you are unable to process the information I provided and declare it ‘inane’ because you can’t understeand. That’s not my problem.

[bagster]

PTBobW wrote: “I also don’t “know” why the ignorant are using “Quotation Marks” when they type the word “Vaccine””

Cause its not a vaccine. Duh.

Its one of the government vaxxer's favorite tactics, to call a fake vaccine a 'vaccine'. Don't fall for it.

Haven't you been paying attention in class?

[bagster]

[familyop]

"Moderna actually grew its adenovirus in fetal cells and used them in the development, confirmation and production of the vaccine. (per your source)"

Typo, maybe? The answer from Nebraska Medicine (Lawler, MD) said the same about Johnson & Johnson but confirmation tests only for Moderna and Pfizer. "...neither the Pfizer nor Moderna vaccines used fetal cell lines during the development or production phases...However, both companies used the fetal cell line HEK 293 in the confirmation phase to ensure the vaccines work." Anyway, I respect choices of individuals based on religious beliefs in regards to the vaccine.

[Fury]

As noted prior, COVID-19 threads have a significant signal to noise ratio.

There’s enough information out there for each person to make a data informed decision.

But at the end of the day, it is each person’s decision. And FReepers need to accept that.

Some of the worst offending issues are 1) mask wearing and 2) vaccines.
Good grief, people. Don’t get so wrapped around the axle that others don’t see COVID-19 issues the same as you or make the same decisions as you.

Unfortunately, there are FReepers on both sides that seem to not only disagree with the “other sides” but also antagonize. A flame war erupts, rendering the thread essentially useless.

Provide references for your positions and argue as politely as possible.

That’s all you can do.

[cornfedcowboy]

Serious question: Can you become vaccinated from a blood transfusion?

[familyop]

Your arguments are fallacious. The Moderna mRNA for the vaccine is not a virus, and it’s not a part of a virus. Viruses do include naturally occurring RNA, but a naturally occurring RNA does not comprise a whole virus. And not all RNA are evil. In a general sense, we would not be alive without them.

[ransomnote]

Your arguments are fallacious. The Moderna mRNA for the vaccine is not a virus, and it’s not a part of a virus.

I do wish you people would read. I did not say it was a virus, I said the HIV Virus is a strand of RNA, the Covid virus is a strand of RNA, and the mRNA vaccine is a strand of RNA. Perhaps if you understood science, you wouldn't note I did not say it was virus and still rebut my post as if had.

Viruses do include naturally occurring RNA, but a naturally occurring RNA does not comprise a whole virus.

Obviously.

And not all RNA are evil.

Why waste my time with straw man arguments? I never said they were evil.

Did you think I said that HIV and Corona were a strand of RNA meant that mRNA was a virus????? I guess I assumed you understood enough science and were up on the Harvard/MIT research and understood how RNA interacts with DNA...wait...you don't understand any of that. That's why you can't understand what I wrote. 

Check out the Harvard/MIT research I posted and figure how how evidence that Covid-19 infection resulted in chimeric DNA and since the mRNA has a fragment of HIV which is likely accompanied by HIV's RT (Reverse Transcriptase) poses a problem (potential chimera) with serious rammifications which should be explored before one deploys an experimental 'shot' on the world.  

In a general sense, we would not be alive without them.

In a literal sense, I wouldn't have an immune system and DNA could not communicate with body cells to enact instructions.

Your arguments are tediously fallacious. If you at least understood a portion of the post I made, you could have asked for clarification. But since you are so behind on the content, you just got out a hammer and went at it. 

Or maybe you just wanted to waste my time. Yes. That last one is looking more and more likely.

[House Atreides]

Of course not. The guy semi-suggesting it was either an idiot or trolling a bit.

[familyop]

"I do wish you people would read. I did not say it was a virus, I said the HIV Virus is a strand of RNA, the Covid virus is a strand of RNA, and the mRNA vaccine is a strand of RNA. Perhaps if you understood science, you wouldn't note I did not say it was virus and still rebut my post as if had."

That's incorrect. An RNA virus has a strand (or two, in some cases) of RNA, but a strand of RNA is not a virus. An analogy would be that a living human being has a heart, but a heart is not a human being.

[familyop]

STAR TREK Logical Thinking #21 - Argumentum Ad Nauseam -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PuhugWBehk

[familyop]

A strand of RNA is not a virus, either. Saying that a strand of RNA is a virus implies that a virus is a strand of RNA. A virus has more components than a strand of RNA (with some viruses, two strands plus the other components).

[ransomnote]

You are still intentionally distorting what I said.

I wrote this: "Perhaps if you understood science, you wouldn't note I did not say it was virus and still rebut my post as if had."

And you again pretend I did "... but a strand of RNA is not a virus"

Yeah, I'm done with your games.

I guess you have to distract from the serious rammifications of implementing the mRNA vaccines without further study. Here, let me help.

COVID-19 News: Harvard And MIT Study Alarmingly Shows That SARS-CoV-2 RNA Integrates Into Human Genome With Varying Implications

3/23/2021, 11:02:22 PM · by ransomnote · 154 replies

thailandmedical.news ^ | Dec 17, 2020 | Covid-19 news

 

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So, like HIV, there's evidence the Covid-19 virus can integrate into the human genome.

And, the mRNA vaccines also contain fragments of HIV, and likely their RT which would make it possible for the mRNA to integrate into DNA.

If both occur in. even in separate cells, the the body's DNA could begin producing the COVID-19 virus and the mRNA sent to trigger immunity. 

 

This could even explain the failed history of mRNA from 2005 to date.

What I wrote re RNA in previous posts is way to simplify the RNA discussion for people who aren't into science and still want to know. You dig your heels in claiming I said RNA is a virus again and again while overlooking the import, and the need for further study, and just one more reason not to shove experimental mRNA 'treatments' on the public, let alone require passports for same.