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How Beethoven’s 5th Symphony put the classism in classical music To many, Beethoven’s most famous work is a symbol of exclusion and elitism in classical music.
Vox ^ | September 15, 2020 | Nate Sloan and Charlie Harding

Posted on 09/15/2020 1:12:30 PM PDT by C19fan

Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony starts with an anguished opening theme — dun dun dun DUNNNN — and ends with a glorious, major-key melody. Since its 1808 premiere, audiences have interpreted that progression from struggle to victory as a metaphor for Beethoven’s personal resilience in the face of his oncoming deafness.

Or rather, that’s long been the popular read among wealthy white men who embraced Beethoven and turned his symphony into a symbol of their superiority and importance. For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism. One New York City classical music fan wrote in the 1840s, for example, that he wished that “all women shall be gagged by officers duly licensed for the purpose before they’re allowed to enter a concert room.”

Today, some aspects of classical culture are still about policing who’s in and who’s out, and it all started with Beethoven’s Fifth. When you walk into a standard concert hall, there’s an established set of conventions and etiquette (“don’t cough!”; “don’t cheer!”; “dress appropriately!”) that’s more about demonstrating belonging than appreciating the music.

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TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; blm; classical; woke
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Good gawd. I find it interesting if classical music is so "exclusive" then why do the Japanese and Chinese embrace it.
1 posted on 09/15/2020 1:12:30 PM PDT by C19fan
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...- V


2 posted on 09/15/2020 1:14:49 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I am sure famous women pianist, for example, Helen Grimaud, feel so oppressed when they play a Beethoven piano concerto.


3 posted on 09/15/2020 1:14:50 PM PDT by C19fan
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Well, DIT DIT DIT DUH...............


4 posted on 09/15/2020 1:14:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism.

Yawn... Of course it is.

Doesn't Vox get tired of writing the same story over and over again? "For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — famous white icon of Western Civilization guy is bad."

5 posted on 09/15/2020 1:16:42 PM PDT by Drew68
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6 posted on 09/15/2020 1:16:58 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Politicizing Beethoven. When will The Narrative ever end.


7 posted on 09/15/2020 1:18:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Resist The Narrative.)
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These freaks and perverts want to destroy Western Civilization, in toto.


8 posted on 09/15/2020 1:18:10 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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And yet according to Ian Anderson every big riff in rock history is built on it.


9 posted on 09/15/2020 1:19:05 PM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Those who feel “excluded” can listen and learn like the rest of us!!!!

There’s enough classical music on YouTube—for free—that anyone can listen and come to appreciate it! It’s not like back in the “old days” where you needed to have access to records (e.g., Joe Biden) or CDs!!!!


10 posted on 09/15/2020 1:20:24 PM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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This aint new. Musicology has been one of the best kept secrets in the Marxist intellectual movement for decades.


11 posted on 09/15/2020 1:20:39 PM PDT by Fernet Branca
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The Left are cultural vandals. In all things they seek the lowest-common-denominator and destruction of any established standards

The similarities to the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, China, etc… are so obvious.


12 posted on 09/15/2020 1:21:37 PM PDT by PGR88
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Eff these people! You got an issue with Beethoven’s 5th or any other piece of music? Do us all a favor and don’t listen to it! I’m sick of this I don’t like it so you can’t listen to it I don’t like it so it has to go I don’t like it so nobody else can like it.


13 posted on 09/15/2020 1:22:48 PM PDT by Dahoser (Not separation of church and state, but of media and state.)
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What is ironic the Soviets did not do this crap on existing works. Yeah there was a stifling of creativity but nobody questioned you if you listened to Beethoven, and read Cervantes.


14 posted on 09/15/2020 1:23:16 PM PDT by C19fan
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Everyone at Vox is on some pretty heavy-duty drugs.


15 posted on 09/15/2020 1:23:44 PM PDT by Fido969 (In)
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All classical music is racist. Out with Beethoven, Mozart and Bach. In with Cardi B, Snoop Doggie Dog and Sister Souljah.


16 posted on 09/15/2020 1:25:35 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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Gotta ruin everything, don’t they.

OTOH, has anybody ever been stirred to joyful weeping by a piece of would-be music rap blasting from a passing teenager’s car the way that symphony can do?


17 posted on 09/15/2020 1:26:57 PM PDT by StAntKnee (Add your own danged sarc tag)
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why do the Japanese and Chinese embrace it

Do we really have to answer that? They are classical rascists viewing anyone who is not them as barbarians.

18 posted on 09/15/2020 1:27:04 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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The hidden, radical message - sympathy with the French revolution and rights of man, brotherhood, and political freedom.

A great documentary on this piece.

https://youtu.be/Y9iMCXCbO7c


19 posted on 09/15/2020 1:28:03 PM PDT by GaltMeister (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.)
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Tchaikovsky was probably one of the alphabet people.


20 posted on 09/15/2020 1:28:06 PM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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