How Beethoven’s 5th Symphony put the classism in classical music To many, Beethoven’s most famous work is a symbol of exclusion and elitism in classical music.

Vox ^ | September 15, 2020 | Nate Sloan and Charlie Harding

[DesertRhino]

”One New York City classical music fan wrote in the 1840s, for example, that he wished that “all women shall be gagged by officers duly licensed for the purpose before they’re allowed to enter a concert room.””

I would add restaurants at lunchtime to that

[nicollo]

But that pales compared to the anti-gayness of Beethoven’s 3rd!!

Oh, come on, everyone knows the 3rd is about Napoleon's "Eroica" in bed, regardless of partner or gender.

While the 6th is clearly gay, all about shepherd's pipes and singing bird throats, the 8th, what Beethoven called "my little Symphony in F," was his finest act of self-satisfaction.

What have these people against good old, white European fagginess?

[MAGAthon]

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[Mariner]

If it excludes retarded primitives, I’m so OK with it.

I’m guessing they’ve never even heard of Mahler’s 5th symphony or Beethoven’s 5th piano concerto.

I’m OK with that too. And I don’t care that they are not.

[FrdmLvr]

OH JUST STFU!!!!!!!! I am so sick of the whining!!!!!!!! I’m so sick of it, I’M beginning to whine!

[FrdmLvr]

Looks interesting! I’ll have to watch it tonight. Thanks for posting.

[left that other site]

Tchaikovsky, Schubert, Britten, Copeland, Bernstein, and many more.

Not to mention Chopin hanging out with a woman named GEORGE.

[Captain Compassion]

Then don’t listen..... Geez.

[Billthedrill]

Musicology has been one of the best kept secrets in the Marxist intellectual movement for decades.

Yup. Frankfurt School darling Theodore Adorno was a music critic both before and after his involvement with political theory and some of those reviews during are masterpieces of opaque Marxian cant. This stuff isn't anything new.

[Fernet Branca]

God, I forgot about Adorno. I had to read him in my Continental theory class, I believe

[beef]

“And yet according to Ian Anderson every big riff in rock history is built on it.”

A lot of white people in rock. I suppose they will be after that, too.