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How Beethoven’s 5th Symphony put the classism in classical music To many, Beethoven’s most famous work is a symbol of exclusion and elitism in classical music.
Vox ^ | September 15, 2020 | Nate Sloan and Charlie Harding

Posted on 09/15/2020 1:12:30 PM PDT by C19fan

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To: csvset

They are led by the disgusting, self-hating Israel hater Barenboim.


61 posted on 09/15/2020 2:11:49 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: C19fan

If you don’t like it you must be a Facist. The opening notes are Morse code for the letter “V” and it was used to signify fighting for victory against Hitler.


62 posted on 09/15/2020 2:11:52 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: DFG

I think there is an WWII era Disney Donald Duck cartoon where this is used.


63 posted on 09/15/2020 2:13:57 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: C19fan

Would it be too obvious to mention that Beethoven was not classical. He was squarely in the middle of the Romantic movement.


64 posted on 09/15/2020 2:17:00 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Honorary Serb
There’s enough classical music on YouTube—for free—that anyone can listen and come to appreciate it! It’s not like back in the “old days” where you needed to have access to records (e.g., Joe Biden) or CDs!!!!

With regard to music, pretty much everything ever recorded can be found on YouTube. I find myself going down into musical rabbit holes there all the time. That is, I seek out a rare piece of music and suddenly I am exploring many others.

YouTube is truly a modern marvel. Regardless of what we might think about its owners.

65 posted on 09/15/2020 2:20:43 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: C19fan

How about Khatia Buniatishvili?


66 posted on 09/15/2020 2:20:54 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: AndyJackson

I have a Chinese friend and he is studying to be a conductor in Beijing. I call him “Maestro.”


67 posted on 09/15/2020 2:22:08 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: csvset

Daniel Barenboim recently did all of Beethoven’s symphonies at Proms with an Israeli/Palestinian orchestra. Is that inclusive enough for them?


68 posted on 09/15/2020 2:24:27 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: C19fan

This is some stupid *%#! right here.


69 posted on 09/15/2020 2:29:04 PM PDT by mlo
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To: LibertarianLiz

I think I remember a story in the UK where a storefront played classical music from speakers outside to make loitering youth disperse.


70 posted on 09/15/2020 2:33:04 PM PDT by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: C19fan

I am so effing sick of these people.

L


71 posted on 09/15/2020 2:33:40 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: C19fan

So we’re now agreed that PBS and cultural subsidies should be discontinued?


72 posted on 09/15/2020 2:36:33 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: Crucial

The Soviets - at least post-Stalin, were open-minded and tolerant compared with today’s social justice warriors.


73 posted on 09/15/2020 2:44:57 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: RandallFlagg

That was Ludwig Van’s 9th


74 posted on 09/15/2020 2:45:35 PM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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To: C19fan

Everything is about politics, and everything is about race to these insane freaks - weather, sports, noises - everything and anything.


75 posted on 09/15/2020 2:48:17 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: SamAdams76

They will get around to censoring and banning Classical music - and not just on YouTube.


76 posted on 09/15/2020 2:51:01 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: C19fan

The concept of music “excluding” people is an anti-concept. This is gibberish.


77 posted on 09/15/2020 2:52:37 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine, education and forests.)
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To: C19fan

Vox is evil bump.


78 posted on 09/15/2020 2:55:20 PM PDT by cgbg (Masters don't want slaves talking about masters and slaves.)
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To: C19fan
To many, Beethoven’s most famous work is a symbol of exclusion and elitism in classical music.

First of all, it's a lie that "to many" view it as exclusion and elitism. Only the loser agitators at vox.com think that way. Their article shows how pathetic and untalented the staff at vox.com are. If someone doesn't like what Beethoven wrote, instead of trashing it, suck it up buttercup and out-write it. No one is stopping them from writing their own piece but themselves.

It's not coincidence that vox.com is begging readers to donate money: "But our distinctive brand of explanatory journalism takes resources. ...please consider helping everyone make sense of an increasingly chaotic world: Contribute today from as little as $3."

79 posted on 09/15/2020 3:00:57 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: cgbg

I’m surprised because there are several great recordings of Ludwig Von on the VOX label.


80 posted on 09/15/2020 3:02:00 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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