Posted on 06/28/2020 5:26:39 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat
Former Vice President Joe Biden is thumping President Donald Trump in the polls. As of Friday, Biden led Trump by 10 percentage points in the RealClearPolitics national average and by six to nine points in each of four key states: Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. But many Democrats refuse to trust these numbers. They feel burned by 2016, when Hillary Clinton lost after leading in the polls for months. Theyre afraid Trump will come back again.
That could happen. But it probably wont, and one reason is that Biden isnt Clinton. You can argue that public antipathy toward Clinton was sexist, based on lies, or propelled by the media. But that antipathy was a fact, and polls consistently documented it. Now polls are showing something else: On identical questions, posed by the same pollsters at the same stage of the campaign, Biden is doing far better than Clinton did. Hes more broadly liked and less broadly disliked than she was.
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That is exactly correct, dfwgator has this nailed.
To free America, the hostage, either Trump has to kill the hostagetakers before election day, OR the people will elect Biden to make the terrorism stop.
Wish FR had a "follow" function.
THANKS!
They gaslighted us on Chinese virus.
They gaslighted us on George Floyd riots.
They are gaslighting us on BLM, historical statues, the cancel culture and nooses.
Why wouldnt they gaslight with their media polls? It would be the one single thing, out of literally everything they do or talk about, that theyd be telling the truth about.
Your point #2...There is definitely an organized effort to get Trump to change his message. Fox News, Karl Rove, Frank Luntz are all furrowing their brows and giving dire warnings that Trump needs to change course fast if he wants to win. Losers!
There's a groupthink going on here that says that Hillary getting a higher count in popular vote is all due to illegal immigrants voting and other voter fraud.
While there is some of that, a more likely explanation that some conservatives just won't admit is that outside of our echo chambers, there are tens of millions of Americans who don't think as we do and don't share our values, and they vote (just as liberals refuse to acknowledge that Trump won the electoral college vote legitimately because enough Americans preferred him to Hillary and not because of the "Russian interference" bogey-man).
For every one of us here, there's at least one person in America sympathetic to the BLM protesters - that's how bad it's become.
I'd also add that anyone who is projecting a landslide by either side is delusional. Landslides like Reagan 84 were possible because back then, a lot of Democrats could be convinced to vote Republican if the Democrats ran a weak candidate (or vice-versa). That's simply not true today. We have blocks of states that are guaranteed to go to Trump and another block that's guaranteed to go to Biden. There can't be a "landslide" when you only have about a half dozen states where the vote margin is really up for grabs and is large enough to count.
What tipped me off once and for all is when Jim Acosta said it.
If Trump were losing with the “wrong message,” they would all SHUT UP. They would gleefully encourage him to keep it up. They are doing just the opposite.
There is good insight here.
People say, “What’s his second term agenda?”
Why does he need one? Is the first term agenda complete yet?
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What tipped me off once and for all is when Jim Acosta said it.
If Trump were losing with the wrong message, they would all SHUT UP. They would gleefully encourage him to keep it up. They are doing just the opposite.
Well put.
I'd rather see Puerto Rico become an independent nation if it comes to that, because the alternative in limbo situation means that one day statehood will be pushed through.
Guess you didn’t follow Kampuchea’s primary performance. She got killed in the black vote, because they don’t consider her black.
No, a veep NEVER makes a significant difference. Probably the closest two were LBJ (60) who saved TX for JFK; and Palin (2008) who kept massive conservative defections from McTurd from happening. Other than that, no veep can significantly lift a flopping demented perv like Biteme.
Jeff, there simply is NO black female who does not terrify whites and would lose the entire suburban vote.
Kampuchea (Harris) did terribly with black voters in the primaries. They did not consider her black. Abrams would lose 25% of the white suburban vote. Moreover, Trump has held firm in six polls over FOUR YEARS at between 15 and 25% black approval. If he gets 12% (which he will) and then another 3-5% blacks stay home (they will), it will be a blowout in some areas.
Consider the last poll had Demented Perv Biteme at only 74% black support.
Harris, just like "Marsha" Coakley, made her career locking up the bruthas.
This cannot win the votes of blacks.
I always ask people to perform their own “LS Test”:
1) How many Trump voters from 2016 do you know who would not vote for him in 2020? (My answer, after speaking to groups for four years, perhaps thousands, is . . . 0.
2) How many people who voted for Gary Johnson, didn’t vote or voted for Cankles in 2016 would vote for Trump now? My answer is at least 3.
If every Trump voter has this same experience, you would easily see Trump win 66m or more pop vote.
No, I was wrong about the HOUSE in 2016, but almost dead on about the senate. I said, net gain of 4-7 seats. We had a net gain of 3, with McSally’s election decided by 1/2% with 10,000 Republicans voting for Enema.
Meanwhile, “everyone” said Brexit 1 would lose (wrong); that Brexit 2 would lose (wrong); made the wrong call on the Israeli and Brazilian elections.
And in the 2018 senate races, they weren’t just wrong, they were way off: One poll had Scott losing by 11 (won by 1); most had Braun winning by 1 (closer to 4); Ducey in AZ by 10 (it was 14); and Hawley losing (won by 2-3).
Over the long haul I’ve been far more right than wrong. And since then we’ve had a string of special election victories: a flip in WI7 and CA25; party switch from Van Drew; holds in NY (Collins) when that was supposed to be a flip; and there was another that slips my mind that was a hold. In short, except for a single WI Supreme Court race, in the last 6 months the GOP has run wild. Even going back six months before that, we were up in special state level elections something like 10 flips to 4 to one D-indie flip.
The election isn’t rigged.
Indeed, where we’ve had Vote By Mail in WI and TX . . . the Republicans won the VBM.
Plus she isn’t African American. She’s Jamaican-—always viewed with skepticism by American blacks.
That’s right.
I have a conservative black friend in Denver and he told me that a surprising number of blacks are going to vote for Trump and simply keep quiet about it.
And a number of Dems are going to sit out the election.
If we had a decent media, the Left would have been out of business long ago.
Another thing, Larry. Mike Pence is a good man but they would chew him up in 2024. We’re in dire need of lining up someone like Pompeo or Tom Cotton, to name two, who are fighters.
I believe DC statehood requires a constitutional amendment
It actually requires several amendments, but if the Congress passes it and the USSC agrees, who will stop the seating of the two new Senators or dispute the voting rights of the three Presidential electors from Congress?
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