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People who will read and respond to this probably know already the reason Star Trek used transporters to beam the crew to and from the Enterprise was to save money on the production budget. It was a lot cheaper to use the transporter than to show some sequence of a shuttle leaving and going to the planet. The whole concept from my layman's understanding is impossible as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle would apply. I think TNG was explicit in trying to find a work around as they claimed transporters had "Heisenberg Compensators (sp?)". That was a bunch of BS too.
1 posted on 02/20/2020 6:45:35 AM PST by C19fan
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Twenty years ago my friends and I decided that a transporter takes you apart - i.e. kills you - and puts the meat you occupy back together. But it would be lifeless.

The only way such a thing could really work is if it was some sort of interdimentional gateway that you pass through, with your atoms unmolested.

I’d probably still hold my breath, though. :)


2 posted on 02/20/2020 6:52:15 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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Ever heard of quantum teleportation?


3 posted on 02/20/2020 6:53:11 AM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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"It was a lot cheaper to use the transporter..."

Well, sure - the shuttle probably ran on some type of fuel, expensive to store and transport.

The Transporter seemed to use much less energy, probably just the excess from the Dilithium crystal's used as power for the starship itself.

The only drawback was being limited to six people at a time.

5 posted on 02/20/2020 6:55:52 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again".)
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6 posted on 02/20/2020 6:56:06 AM PST by real saxophonist (Everything I Play Gone Be Funky, From Now On)
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Magic, Duh.


7 posted on 02/20/2020 6:58:09 AM PST by freedomlover
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Shut up Spock or I’ll beam you up without your < deleted >.


10 posted on 02/20/2020 6:59:03 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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its a tv show


11 posted on 02/20/2020 7:00:20 AM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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I think TNG was explicit in trying to find a work around as they claimed transporters had "Heisenberg Compensators (sp?)". That was a bunch of BS too.

My problem with TNG was that they made up stupid technobabble to solve every problem. "I reconfigured the main deflector dish to emit a pulse of deus ex machina particles and that solved the problem" over and over and over. So you discount that and you are left with a little morality play where Starfleet shows that they are better people than the ones they are helping. Cool, lots of people love it the best of all Star Trek. I'm just an old fashioned sixties-Trek kinda guy, where you talked your enemies into committing suicide rather than bombarding them with non-lethal mystery particles that cause them to peaceably resolve their disagreements.

12 posted on 02/20/2020 7:00:36 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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It’s fiction. It requires some suspension of disbelief.

The transporter is nothing more than a dramatic convenience.


13 posted on 02/20/2020 7:00:58 AM PST by IronJack
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It is best you not think too hard while watching these shows. Just be entertained or sometimes irritated.

If they could do the transport, they could do about anything. BTW, why didn’t they carry a few spare dilithium crystals?


15 posted on 02/20/2020 7:01:23 AM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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Repeat to yourself, it’s just a show, I really should relax.


16 posted on 02/20/2020 7:01:33 AM PST by Stevenc131
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The whole show was BS, but entertaining nonetheless, which is why it was watched by a large swath of people.


17 posted on 02/20/2020 7:02:56 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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Same problems they had in THE FLY?(1958) In the book, the lost cat, fly and man were recombined into a monstrous creature.


18 posted on 02/20/2020 7:02:56 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Cheesy Plot Device or Deus ex Machina
You decide


20 posted on 02/20/2020 7:09:22 AM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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I read the article, and an answer (at least according to Trek lore) is in place for two of the problems posed.

Power: According to the article, the power in a three-mile long lightning bolt would be enough to dis-assemble a human. The warp core, with its matter/anti-matter technology, would have the power and much more to spare. Powering a warp drive takes incredible amounts of energy, provided constantly, for long periods of time..Not to mention powering all the necessary systems of a starship. In the Trek universe, the matter/anti-matter system fills the bill. Doesn’t exist, yet..but maybe one day.

Computational power: The article said that the power and speed of computation necessary would be astronomical to map, dis-assemble, and re-assemble a human. Based off what’s available to Starfleet in the 23rd and 24th centuries, they get around that with tech that (obviously) hasn’t been invented yet. According to Trek sources, one of the things they do to boost computer speed is to surround the computer core in a subspace field. Since atoms move faster-than-light in subspace (hence warp speed), that allows the computer to make computations at ‘warp speed’.

I know it’s all conjecture anyway, but that’s my .02 cents.


21 posted on 02/20/2020 7:10:25 AM PST by hoagy62 (America Supreme!)
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I read the article, and an answer (at least according to Trek lore) is in place for two of the problems posed.

Power: According to the article, the power in a three-mile long lightning bolt would be enough to dis-assemble a human. The warp core, with its matter/anti-matter technology, would have the power and much more to spare. Powering a warp drive takes incredible amounts of energy, provided constantly, for long periods of time..Not to mention powering all the necessary systems of a starship. In the Trek universe, the matter/anti-matter system fills the bill. Doesn’t exist, yet..but maybe one day.

Computational power: The article said that the power and speed of computation necessary would be astronomical to map, dis-assemble, and re-assemble a human. Based off what’s available to Starfleet in the 23rd and 24th centuries, they get around that with tech that (obviously) hasn’t been invented yet. According to Trek sources, one of the things they do to boost computer speed is to surround the computer core in a subspace field. Since atoms move faster-than-light in subspace (hence warp speed), that allows the computer to make computations at ‘warp speed’.

I know it’s all conjecture anyway, but that’s my .02 cents.


22 posted on 02/20/2020 7:10:25 AM PST by hoagy62 (America Supreme!)
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Star trek, smar flec

go expanse


23 posted on 02/20/2020 7:12:01 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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My main problem with Star Trek started when I figured out that Star Fleet was some sort of totalitarian military dictatorship, spanning many planets.

Star Wars Jedi were also a bit on the Warlike-Space-Imans-control-the-government scale.


25 posted on 02/20/2020 7:20:04 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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In the words of the Great Philosopher:

“If you’re wondering how he eats and breathes
and other science facts
Just repeat to yourself: “It’s just a show,
I should really just relax...
...for Mystery Science Theater 3000.”


29 posted on 02/20/2020 7:38:07 AM PST by 75thOVI (Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from malice.)
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Although the shuttles on the original Battlestar Galactica were used effectively as plot devices.

A military space battleship or a cruise starship with a bar run by Whoopi, two very different versions of the future...


30 posted on 02/20/2020 7:38:26 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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