Posted on 02/01/2020 11:31:57 AM PST by Jack Black
So, I am thinking about the upcoming primaries, and what the most strategically effective way to approach them is.
I live and vote in Washington State, which in recent years has had our long established voting procedures radically altered by Team Donkey, the progressives and the Washington Grange (acting as useful idiots for the Democrats)
We've gone to a "Jungle Primary" for all state and national races, except the Presidential race. I know many other states are being (or have been) pushed in this direction. The Democrat goal is to have general elections that feature only two candidates, both Democrats. This isn't merely a weird speculation, the 2018 California race for the U.S. Senate had only two names on the general election ballot: Diane Feinstein, Democrat and State Senator Kevin de León, also a Democrat.
This is what they aim to do all over, with these new Jungle Primary laws.
The Presidential Nomination contests are a bit more complicated. The legislature, and even Citizen Initiatives, can not simply dictate policy to the Replublican and Democratic parties (at both the National and Washington State level) -- so instead they made smaller changes.
But the impetus, to tear down party power and make "everything open to everyone" is the same.
In Washington we will get both a Dem and GOP primary ballot and can vote either, regardless of party registration (which has become pretty meaningless, because of jungle primaries).
So the question for Freepers is: should I (and others in this position, which is millions of Trump supporters) cross over and vote in the Dem primary?
In thinking about this I have made these judgements:
Given all of the above I feel that it makes sense for me to use my vote to help Trump as much as possible in the Primary phase, and that appears to be voting in the Democratic primary.
My strategy is to vote for which ever candidates seems mostly likely to force a brokered convention, which I feel will do the most harm to Democratic unity.
A Democratic convention which opens with no candidate having enough delegates to ensure a first round majority will quickly devolve into a spectacular food fight.
Imagine Bernie Bros. losing on the second ballot, when the "Super Delegates" are allowed to cast their votes for the first time. It will be the second convention in a row where Bernie loses because the party big-wigs did him in!
The DNC rules give delegates to any candidate who scores over 15% in a primary. My strategy will be to vote for the third place candidate who is going to break that threshold. The more people winning delegates the better the chances of a brokered convention!
An alternate strategy might be to pick the Dem who I sincerely think would be the least-horrible should they end up in the job. But, they are all very horrible, so I find that criteria hard to figure out. If I was able to see one who is "less bad" that might be the most patriotic thing to do.
The next President is going to be either of Trump or the Democratic nominee. What a horrible thought, given Biden, Bernie and Warren are the three front runners, and #4 is probably the wretched gun-banner Bloomberg.
Guys like Yang, an amusing buffoon, are way under the 5% theshold, voting for him likely has no effect on the contest under the current rules.
My idealistic daughter announced she is supporting Bernie, in Idaho. I think maybe we will vote for him too, in Ohio. He is the Democrat Party’s worst nightmare - clearly proud of his Socialist background and making it open to all what the Democrats have really become. If Bernie is the nominee, many old time Democrats will not vote for him, and it will make the whole divide clear - Socialist or Capitalist. Best chance to not only maintain the Presidency but to also retake the House as the D’s will be in such a disarray.
I have the same problem. But I can overcome my revulsion...and I will if it helps
Why not? Assure a contested convention and watch the Dem orcs cannibalize each other.
Vote for the DEM you want to win, because your state is going to DEM in the general election.
In our state the elections are basically determined in the primaries, because there are virtually no Republicans.
Operation Chaos revisited.
Yep, i’d like to see Trump vs Biden. That would be great to watch.
I live in NY State. You can only vote in primaries of the party you are registered. If you’re registered Independent...you can’t vote in them at all.
By the time WA has our primary, I intend to vote for whichever dem will cause the most dissention.
flr
If you’re able, help the weakest dem if you can.
I doubt it’s needed, the lot is a bunch of culls and couldn’t beat Trump if he quit last month.
Their bench is weak and ought to be in a county hospital.
Yes. Feel the Bern
Never interfere with an enemy who is making a mistake.
YES!!! I can then tell my fellow classmates from JMHS I voted for Bernie in the primary! Hey? He’s for free everything, what could possibly go wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong....
Absolutely not here - with down ballot primaries, with major differences between R’s.
A Warren, candidacy is dangerous because some (not many) may vote to elect the 1st woman, much as they did for Hillary.
If he is still on the ballot here in Virginia, I may vote for Butt-edge-edge just to throw as much of a monkey wrench into the Democratic works as I can. LOL
I predicted that the Democrats would screw Bernie Sanders in the run up to the 2016 primaries. Since the 2016 general election my assessment of the state of the socialists has been that if the Democrats did that again the socialists would run their own candidate in 2020 although quite possibly someone younger than Bernie.
That is still my assessment (often stated on these forums) only now I believe that the socialist candidate might beat the Democrat candidate and some of the Democrats may stay home.
If the socialists beat the Democrats then I do not believe that they will ever go back to the Democrat party.
The Democrats could embrace Bernie, and then engineer a brutal, humiliating defeat that would crush the socialists. Doing that would likely cede the house and the Senate in majorities big enough for Trump to seriously prune the bureaucracy.
They don’t have any good choices.
Go Bernie!
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