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COBOL: Five little letters that if put on a CV would ensure stable income for a greybeard coder
The Register ^ | September 16, 2019 | Richard Speed

Posted on 09/17/2019 2:54:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

COBOL is celebrating 60 years since its specifications were signed off. Darling of Y2K consultants, the language is rapidly approaching pensionable age, but many a greybeard owes their career to it.

It arose from a desire to create a language that could straddle the computers of the era. Each manufacturer had its own way of working, which, while OK if a company always stuck with one maker, made portability of programs or skills a tad tricky.

If only there was, say, a COmmon Business-Oriented Language? Wouldn't that be splendid?

Mary Hawes, a programmer of Burroughs machines, put forward a proposal in 1959 that users and manufacturers create a common language that could run on different computers and handle tasks such as payroll calculation and record keeping. The US Department of Defense (DoD), which tended to buy computers from different makers, took an interest and sponsored a meeting in May of that year to kick off the creation of the language.

Having found the then two-year-old FORTRAN not quite to its taste, the DoD was keen on an alternative and the target date of September was set for a specification for an interim language, a stopgap that would become COBOL.

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: cobol; coding; computers; programming; windowspinglist
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1 posted on 09/17/2019 2:54:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I have coded COBOL. It’s really like BASIC.

The custom stuff comes down to OS-related calls and understanding how DASD is used.

It’s pretty easy to program, outside of the OS/DASD custom stuff.

2 posted on 09/17/2019 2:56:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ShadowAce; Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; ...
COBOL! ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

What do you mean, "You can't run COBOL on Windows!"?

And a ping to ShadowAce for the Tech list...

3 posted on 09/17/2019 2:59:28 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No COBOL, but way too much RPG II in a previous life.


4 posted on 09/17/2019 3:00:00 PM PDT by nesnah (Liberals - the petulant children of politics)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Compiles Only Because Of Luck


5 posted on 09/17/2019 3:01:36 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

COBOL is plug ugly! Got the PICTURE?


6 posted on 09/17/2019 3:04:33 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

COBOL is not hard. It’s a very straightforward language, but it’s not what you’d be doing if you picked up Cobol today. Coding in any large software system that has forty or more years of patches, workarounds, acquisitions and reorganizations baked into it and doing it in COBOL which was never designed to handle all of the data, object, policy and security realities of today — without breaking a system that is so critical to the business that it hasn’t replatformed once in all this time — is what you’ll be paid to do. It’s good money, but it’s far from easy money for someone to break in to.


7 posted on 09/17/2019 3:05:30 PM PDT by jz638
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I had 1 semester of COBOL in 1976, but mentioned it on my resume.

Imagine my surprise when in 2000 they wanted to assign me to a project to program in COBOL!!!!

I said, I'm a bit rusty and don't think that's my best match......

8 posted on 09/17/2019 3:08:18 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Only two kinds of people worry about missing periods. Teenage girls and COBOL programmers.”

L


9 posted on 09/17/2019 3:09:41 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cobol, Fortran, Assembler, RPG and a bunch of report writers. Assembler was the sh*t.


10 posted on 09/17/2019 3:10:51 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: dayglored

Well..https://sourceforge.net/projects/open-cobol/


11 posted on 09/17/2019 3:11:19 PM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.” - Sounds like a sub-section of the FBI or something.


12 posted on 09/17/2019 3:15:22 PM PDT by Songcraft
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Fortran. ...had to learn it for my structural engineering classes. Never used it one time since college days. :’ -(


13 posted on 09/17/2019 3:15:25 PM PDT by redshawk (Willie's Whore was bused......oh my...lying pig)
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To: redshawk

FORTRAN, my very first college programming class. Afterwards I went on to use EasyTrieve which is basically COBOL without a compiler, NOMAD, some Assembler, and DB2.


14 posted on 09/17/2019 3:23:44 PM PDT by RonInNaples
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I Enjoy Data Processing (actually I don’t, but the phrase is burned in from the one time I strayed from technical languages)


15 posted on 09/17/2019 3:28:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I took a COBOL course in college and found that it was good for producing reports and such, but I don’t think I’d want to use it much beyond that.


16 posted on 09/17/2019 3:29:50 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats hated Lincoln too.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

SOAP II, Autocoder, GMAP, Cobol, More Assembler, SDL (the best) and C++. Went to work for Burroughs in ‘68. Put 38 years in. Can’t remember the language for Unisys large systems in Orange County. Lousy memory.; <((


17 posted on 09/17/2019 3:31:19 PM PDT by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: dljordan
Assembler was the sh*t.

If you don't understand the assembly language for the machine you're coding for, you're not a real programmer. If I had a choice all my (DSP) code would be in assembler, but most managers who've never written a program themselves are afraid of it.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 09/17/2019 3:31:58 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

C pretty much killed Assembler.


19 posted on 09/17/2019 3:34:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My only acquaintance with COBOL is a college course I took just to see how good the coding language compares with FORTRAN which is what I used to write over a million lines of code in engineering and manufacturing procedures.

Later on I came across dBASE coding language and found it was far more useful compared to the previous 2 languages. The main reason was it allows direct and quick manipulation of data stored in files without needing to code anything. If only dBASE was available during the 1960’s & 1970’s, my job would have been 10 times more productive.


20 posted on 09/17/2019 3:35:13 PM PDT by entropy12 (Learn all you can from the mistakes of others. You won't have time to make them all yourself.)
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