Posted on 02/25/2019 12:12:45 PM PST by w1n1
When people think of having a backup pistol, "Dirty Harry" pistol usually comes to mind.
With the decline in small caliber pistol for personal protection. There are some experienced gun instructors that still believes theres still a place for it. For example, Claude Werner of Tactical Professor. Claude is experienced in IDPA, NRA certified gun instructor and a retired military Special Operations Officer.
With all the weapons training that Claude has gone through and certified to instruct firearms employment. He still thinks outside the convention beliefs that a smaller .32 caliber can protect yourself.
He states it has to do with what weve been taught and conditioned into believing that a larger caliber with the knock down power will solve the problem. Claude goes on to explain that in law enforcement its their job to stop the threat and apprehend the perpetrator.
Having a larger caliber handgun helps stop the threat. So when we look at this application for personal protection, yes the firepower is necessary. But in most self-defense scenarios documented by law enforcement shows that when a bad guy gets shot from the defender. They usually run away, for law enforcement its their job to apprehend them.
But, for the private citizen, (Joe like us) once the shots have been fired and the bad guy runs away. The threat is gone, you can now call the police to get after them.
Its about the Indian not the Arrow
As you can see from this similar scenario but from two different view points. Having that larger caliber pistol may be the way to go but the goal of any life threatening situation is to stop the attack. Stopping the attack does not mean to end a persons life with a big .357 magnum. It means to stop them from attacking you, even with a .25 caliber pocket pistol. Think it cant be done? Yes these .380, .32 or 25s are little pop gun, its about putting that pop in the right place, then it becomes a lot more effective. Again, Claude Werner is not saying caliber doesnt matter. Claude claims its about the Indian not the arrow. However, the average gun shopper/owner is focused on the arrow. So yes there needs to be much training on.... Read the rest of 25 caliber pistol.
Front or back?
They are warmer to the touch.
Couldnt she at least made an omlette for the guy on her last day.
He wasn’t home.
1. What does Claude carry? I’d guess not s .25.
2. Sure, 25s &32s kill, maybe even stop, but as evidenced by the tables posted, no where near fighting calibers do. Are just wanting to talk, or fight?
3. Do cops or operators generally rely on mouse gun? Why would you?
That’s the Beretta 418 and would have been 007’s .25 auto “with the taped magazine and sawn barrel” mentioned in Doctor No.
Rare & expensive nowadays, like $700 or so.
The threat is NOT gone. The perp knows where you live, you don't know where he does. It seems prudent to make sure he can't run away.
I know I can hit a man in the eye at 10ft with my Sig P232.
And I’m OK if I miss and hit him in the cheek or the forehead.
Or, dead on the nose.
If he happens to have a gun, I’ll try to make sure I shoot first. If I don’t, I’m probably dead but will empty the magazine anyway so the cops won’t have to look very long for who it was that killed me.
Rule #1 - Shoot first
Rule #2 - Keep shooting
No less than Frank James carried a hammerless 32 when he was on the lecture circuit later in life and got a death threat.
John Dillinger carried and used one.
Sacco and Vanzetti used 32s quite effectively.
And as for the woeful 25, two points. God only knows how many people in the 70 and 80s were killed with those things.
And this is food for thought... when the Soviets committed that mass murder on Polish officers in the Katyn Forest, the executioner/murderer used a Walther 25 ACP for almost all of them.
He murdered 22,000 men in about 6 weeks. Almost all were a single shot to the neck or head.
If I had a 25 I wouldn’t jump out and try to stop a bank robbery, or take on a squad of Al Qeida frogmen with AKs, But it can and will kill you dead as a hammer right NOW if you do your job.
There is a Liveleak video of some ISIS guys having little boys murder prisoners in some old amusement park. These little boys are maybe 5 years old. One had a 25 ACP and pops a guy in the skull. He was insta-dead. That little thing was no joke.
Is there any reference site that I could really identify my Beretta?
“3. Do cops or operators generally rely on mouse gun? Why would you?”
I laugh at the term “operators”. My mom was an operator.
Silly term, better to call yourself a Soldier, Sailor or Marine.
As elcid mentioned that’s a 418, also called the Bantam.
More here:
http://www.berettaweb.com/prima_2.htm
fun little gun but get a bigger cal with more man stopper ability after the la riots i kept my 25 auto in my carpenter bags where i kept my tape measure
You SHOULD know that if you kill him running away, you will likely be in legal trouble. While I agree with your general proposition, the perp needs to be terminated before he turns and runs away.
There’s a Wikipedia entry on the Beretta 418 with its history.
Thank you Slim, still trying to identify the pistol.......
I know but where on the pistol does it indicate it is a "418"....?
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