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Gun Safe Fail
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 2/12/2018 | J Hines

Posted on 02/12/2018 5:22:37 AM PST by w1n1

When you see those big gun safes that people buy, you probably think that its theft-proof.
Gun safe manufacturers offers a variety of safes for the many different users in their market. Such as the inexpensive for the hunters in their cabin to the high-end heavy duty for the more affluent buyer.
No matter how tough it looks to get into these gun safes, you can see how 10 dollars (hand saw) can get you into one of these heavy gun safes.

In this video from SecureIt Gun Storage you can see it doesn't take a lot to get into the best ones in the market. Some excellent advices is if your gun safe have thin sidewalls, consider boxing it into a corner, so that the door is the only exposed area.
For added security bolt the safe to the floor from the interior, this is a huge plus giving you another layer of theft proofing it.
One gun safe company that you might want to check out is Liberty Safe Company. They design their safes with an eye to prevent break-ins, if not then it really slow down the bad guys. See the full footage of gun safe fail here.


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1 posted on 02/12/2018 5:22:37 AM PST by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Good article; the safe you buy depends on the money you have and its real purpose.

If you just need to keep kids safe or do you have serious break-in problems.


2 posted on 02/12/2018 5:27:31 AM PST by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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To: w1n1

Reference.


3 posted on 02/12/2018 5:28:25 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

ANY safe can be broken into. The question is, how much skill, time, noise, and destruction that it takes to do it. This particlar safe doesn’t seem to take much of any of those.


4 posted on 02/12/2018 5:32:36 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: w1n1

Yes every burglar carries an angle grinder and is not worried making a lot of noise.

Every body leaves there safe out in the middle of a large room allowing unlimited access to the sides.

Given enough time and the right tools one can get into anything.

Most burglars are the smash and grab type get in grab what ever is loose and get out.


5 posted on 02/12/2018 5:32:38 AM PST by riverrunner
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—and that was no “thousand pound safe” either as easily as he pushed it around—


6 posted on 02/12/2018 5:35:16 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: w1n1

Research UL (Underwriters Laboratories) TL ratings to get real ratings on safes. A TL30x6 stops 99% of bad guys, but no safe or vault is 100%.


7 posted on 02/12/2018 5:37:54 AM PST by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: w1n1

Locks only keep honest people honest.


8 posted on 02/12/2018 5:38:13 AM PST by Bitman
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You wouldn’t want to put the Hope Diamond in a consumer grade gun safe, but most break-ins aren’t perpetrated by Oceans Eleven. The perps get in, take what they can grab, and leave. A gun safe works for that. It’s just there to slow them down.


9 posted on 02/12/2018 5:48:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: w1n1

Gun safes are designed to keep children and liberals from hurting themselves.


10 posted on 02/12/2018 5:55:31 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Bitman

You beat me. ;-)


11 posted on 02/12/2018 5:55:57 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: DocRock
Research UL (Underwriters Laboratories) TL ratings to get real ratings on safes. A TL30x6 stops 99% of bad guys, but no safe or vault is 100%.

I have managed the installation of concrete and steel bank vaults in new construction scenarios. The specifications are normally provided by the bank. A designer admitted that no security system, short of lethal response to intrusion, is 100% secure. But he did say that anyone that "breaks into" the vault would leave enough evidence for investigators to capture the perps. It would take a lot of time and tools and sweat, not to mention other security systems that would have to be intricately disabled to give them that time.

Then he said something I had never considered. In all security endeavors, there is no defense against a clever heist (vs. "break-in"). In almost all cases where cash or box vaults are breached, it involves an employee (inside job). In these cases, knowledge is the weapon. And it's up to the bank to keep that knowledge secure. I thought that was insightful.

12 posted on 02/12/2018 5:59:40 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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To: rellimpank

If it is on casters moving a thousand pound object isn’t that hard.


13 posted on 02/12/2018 6:00:19 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Tenacious 1

I grew up in the jewelry industry and designed several security systems for this high risk industry. The key is to delay the entry to valuables and make sure the security system cannot be defeated and the response time of authorities is less than time to access valuables.


14 posted on 02/12/2018 6:06:00 AM PST by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: w1n1

I had to break into my own safe when the electronics failed. Wasn’t that hard. Medium duty Liberty safe. Never buy a safe without a mechanical key back-up. Lesson learned.


15 posted on 02/12/2018 6:11:59 AM PST by BipolarBob (At one time I held the world record as the worlds youngest person on the planet.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I know of situations where safes that have been bolted to the floor were still ripped out of the house. The best idea is to buy a cheap safe that can be removed. Add an old car battery or two for weight. Hide your firearms someplace within the structure of the building.


16 posted on 02/12/2018 6:16:52 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I know of situations where safes that have been bolted to the floor were still ripped out of the house. The best idea is to buy a cheap safe that can be removed. Add an old car battery or two for weight. Hide your firearms someplace within the structure of the building.


17 posted on 02/12/2018 6:16:57 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: w1n1

Of course no safe is 100% and that is why there should always be a decoy safe. A small and easy to break or take safe with nothing of value in it. Thief will think they got the goods and be gone quickly.


18 posted on 02/12/2018 6:23:07 AM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: meatloaf

My neighbors house was broken into when I was a kid. Neighbor had a small, heavy safe bolted to the floor in a closet. Took the thieves all night to rip out the floor to get away with the empty safe.


19 posted on 02/12/2018 6:28:41 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Plus, a decent safe can protect your little “honies” for a couple hours should a fire break out. That’s important to me.


20 posted on 02/12/2018 6:32:30 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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