Some concealed carrier that are into “comfort carry” will usually carry a pistol with a single stack vs a dual stack (more capacity). Posted on 10/03/2017 10:45:06 AM PDT by w1n1
Some concealed carrier that are into “comfort carry” will usually carry a pistol with a single stack vs a dual stack (more capacity).
Getting back to the title of this article, its not about just having lots of ammo, but the situation requires that you may need it. Plus the idea of using a gun for self defense is not to kill your attacker, but to make them stop attacking.
Now we are back to the original question, how many rounds do you need to stop an attacker? According to Massad Ayoob he states: switch from 5-6 round revolvers to 15-18 or 20 round semi automatics; “5-6 rounds was usually enough… but usually isn’t always.” Massad was referring to law enforcement employment but falls into personal defense as well.
So the consensus is that the more rounds you have the better to prepare for most gunfight situations. When you look into the hits ratios of our law enforcements that were involved in these shootouts, its not good. (12% to 19%, unless someone knows of a more updated version from the FBI & NYPD) Yes, while under stress these LEO’s will shoot more than in a training environment. With that in mind, most lawfully concealed carrier will probably be expending lots of rounds in a self defense situation. Read the rest of the "how many rounds do I need for concealed carry" story here. What about you all, how many?
One. If you are serious.
45 caliber: like a 9mm, but for men.
Become accurate with a 45; carry it until arthritis makes it impossible.
The longer distance is for two reasons:
It rapidly decreases your angle of dispersion. You shoot more accurately.
You find ways of shooting more accurately and stop the bad habits.
Based on what? I seriously doubt it. We are not snowflakes, killing in self-defense is a momentary event. Get over it and move on.
Most shots that land on an 18x24 inch target have passed through a 7 inch circle. Every shot that is within 18 inches of target center has passed through a six inch circle at 15 feet.
This years project is to put six consecutive shots into a six inch target at 15 yards.
Then I move move out to 25 yards and delete the bad habits I picked up at 15 yards. Lol.
I’ll take that under advisement in making decisions. :)
I carry at least one spare magazine for my Glock 23, although I’m in the process of procuring a two magazine carrier. That will give me 40 rounds total. Right now I only have 27 rounds. But, that’s 21 or 22 more than the wheel gun guys have.
What... you don't know how many you'll need? Well, carry as many as you're comfortable carrying. Maybe that's a 5+1, maybe it's even a single-shot, or maybe it's a full size Colt 1911 with an extended mag that you "conceal" under rolls of fat, LOL
The point is, it's a kind of silly question because nobody ever knows what they'll need. Kind of like asking "what's the best gun if you're being attacked", and the answer is "the gun you have". Something is always better than nothing. :)
Short answer: If you're LEO then you're more likely than the average Joe to run into bad hombres, so you're probably packing larger magazines with several reloads handy. If you're an average Joe, carry what you're comfortable with.
My Glock 23 has never had a misfire. My Colt Trooper, on the other hand, totally jammed up when I went to put a .357 through it. But, the real reason I carry a Glock is I have a lot more opportunities to neutralize any threat.
Good advice in your post.
I would only add...
And practice, practice, practice ;)
I prefer the odds in my favor as much as possible. If my house were on fire, I wouldn't want the fire department to respond with just enough equipment to handle 90 percent of house fires.
The old military school of thought, and practice when we carried guns of steel, were a loaded firearm, plus two “charges”, since the term was “to charge your weapon’.
So, “for those in Rio Linda”, that equates to ‘whatever number fills your particular piece, plus two times more’.
That could be the MAGAZINE plus two for your semi-automatic pistol or, the FULL OR HALF MOON CLIPS, plus for two more full times, for your Smith and Wesson Model 1917 revolver.
For those not using CLIPSin their revolver, this would mean Two each of a DADE reloader, an HKS reloader, a SAFARILAND reloader, a FIVE STAR reloader, a SPEEDBEE reloader, or a QUIKSTRIP. A QUIKSTRIP is just that - a plastic reinforced straight strip that holds cartridges for the cylinder reloading process.
(For further, and better explanations, see Michael DeBethencourt on YouTube.)
I appreciate all the thoughts on the thread. With a 5-shot 44 special (and 2 speed loaders) I have never felt naked. But there are some reasons: one is my marksmanship, and the other is all the other tools I have at my disposal in any situation.
If you would consider the subject of self defense beyond our normal preoccupation with firearm, I have a suggestion. I have totally enjoyed Marc “Animal” MacYoung’s website on “No Nonsense Self Defense”. Let me know if you enjoy it as much as I have.
When you can't get to the range pick up a copy of the Army manual TT 23-71-1, a Daisy Red Rider (knock off the sights) and start instinct shooting training. Skills should carry over if you want to master the Israeli (sort of a formalized Col. Askins technique) hip shooting method.
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Quite true. Most criminals are looking for an easy score, not a gun battle and a possible murder charge if they win.
“Two in the chest, the face gets the rest.”
Great advice if you want a murder charge.
I recall reading an article - or maybe a post by a freeper.
They got to Afghanistan and were told to carry as much extra ammo in their humvees as they could. They put a bunch more in. After they got back from their first fire-fight they got a bit more serious than just tossing in an extra duffle. They removed various panels to get to the interior holes to stash magazines, found every nook and cranny and filled them up with mags.
When I carry my Glock 26, I carry 10 in the flush magazine and a Glock 19 15 round magazine for a reload.
When I carry my Glock 42, it is one 6 round magazine in the gun, and two 6 round magazines for reload.
When I carry my J-Frame, it is 5 rounds in the cylinder, and two 5 round speed strips.
So that is 25, 18, or 15 rounds depending on the firearm.
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