Posted on 05/22/2017 9:32:52 AM PDT by TBP
Okay. Im trying to get us to we need to talk about AI. We need to talk about future technology and how its going to integrate with our society. This is more important than anything else because this will affect your life in about five years and will definitely affect our childrens life. And there are really smart people Elon Musk, Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates a long list of them, that are all saying, This has got to be stopped. This is not some Luddite stop technology. This is really smart people saying, This is the end of humans. Now, some really smart people on the other side are saying, No, this is the greatest thing ever. But we dont just slide into something where the greatest minds on earth are saying, Hey, warning, this could wipe out the entire human race. I say we dont take that casually and just slide into that technology, like we have everything else.
So I want to show you one more piece of technology. And Ill probably have to do it at the after the break, here at the bottom. But one more thing that will show you how were sliding into things. And youre just not going to be able to get out. Because humans always try to cure a problem, then once theyve found that cure, they want to upgrade that, and then they push and abuse that.
Everybody knows that right now we yesterday had a conversation about abortion. And if thats life inside of a human body. And then how much is that life worth? That was the MSNBC discussion: Yeah, but that kid, you know, could cost $10,000 a year to raise.
So what is life? And what is the value of life?
Those are two questions that Americans and the world dont want to answer because were too busy talking about politics and who is going to be on the Supreme Court to rule pro or or anti-choice. Instead, we should be having the conversation of, what is life?
And you can tell that man cares about life more than anything else because anything that you read about Silicon Valley, theyre all searching for one thing. And for the first time in human history, were about to cross into it. And it is the fountain of youth. Right now, the biggest thinkers on earth are trying to cure death. As amazing and as ridiculous as that sounds, theyre really trying to do it.
Google's Deep Mind project is worrisome.
Natural stupidity worries me more than artificial intelligence.
How about looking at eh ethics of Glenn “it’s all about hype and me” Beck. Stop posting from this buffoon. He is a total LOONEY!
Congratulations on being the first one in to post the hate Beck meme and divert from the discussion at hand.
This has got to be stopped. This is not some Luddite stop technology. This is really smart people saying, This is the end of humans.
I perhaps don’t understand what the issue is. Is this dealing with robots? How would this cause the end of human life?
1. Over time robots and AI could replace all or most jobs making humans redundant. Ever since horses became redundant there have been fewer and fewer of them.
2. Uncontrolled AI could kill us all.
3. Uncontrolled AI could just ignore us. We'd still be around, but we'd be no more important to the scheme of things than the orangutans.
AI is unacceptable, yet cloning is? Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Stephen Hawking, what a bunch of morons that have been stuck in their fantasy bubbles for too long.
I have noticed that Glenn Beck is revamping himself again. He started out as being a comedian, then he became a conservative, then he became an anti alt right never Trumper. Of late it seems to talk a lot about how scary technology in the future is going to be. Of course, he finishes every Doom and Gloom session with words of Hope for those who will buy Gold Line.
Too late, can’t put the genie back in the bottle. AIs are going to happen, they’re going to wind up smarter than us, and hopefully they like us.
I hope the AI think we’re nice pets.
How could uncontrolled AI kill us all? Can you give examples of how this would work? How would it be uncontrolled? Aren’t humans ultimately in control of any such creation of AI?
As a once upon a time big GB fan and supporter, he deserves all scorn coming his way. The Right does not need the hysteria, faux-outrage or histrionics so popular amongst the Political Left to make points. It detracts from the real issues and operates on an emotional level which is disruptive to dialog. That is what Beck represents.
Two different sci-fi takes on what might happen if strong AI is ever created:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker_(Saberhagen)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture
FReegards
Ex Machina was a fascinating movie that answers the question, “What do you get when you create an AI robot that lacks a human ethical compass? You get a monster. A very pretty monster.
That doesn't include Glen Beck.
I wish it were someone besides Glenn Beck bringing up the topic. With technology, implants, replacement body parts, DNA splicing etc, one wonders where the definition of “human” will be in the not-too-distant future.
Did you see the movie “Surrogates” from 2009? Just this far into the future, it’s a way-too plausible outcome of dependence on technology. The scenario is that robots, directed by people from their computers, play out the lives of those people. The effects are somewhat realistic and chilling.
I saw it. We are innately tool users, we love our toys. And of course there’s always the question of why is this line suddenly too far? We’ve been dependent on our tech at least since we invented the plow, and we’re just going to keep on making it better until we can’t. And can’t won’t come because we hit some ceiling, it’ll come because we screwed up and died.
“How could uncontrolled AI kill us all?”
You can make up a lot of 50’s era science fiction movies.
AI could be monitoring/controlling how much chemicals to add to the water supply to purify it. There is a bug that is hard to kill in the water and AI adds too much poison making water toxic (or making all the men who drink it sterile) but it isn’t discovered until all are infected.
AI robots are programmed to repair themselves. They start killing anyone who tries to turn them off. Soon they see everyone as trying to turn them off.
Is your computer updating itself right now? Do you even know how to tell if it is? Can you make it not? (Note if you’re on Windows 10 the answers to those questions are: probably, there is no way, and no.) That’s how an AI gets uncontrolled, at this point most of our technology basically takes suggestions from us and mostly seems to follow them.
As for how it can kill us all, all depends on what it winds up in charge of. Just look at any of the discussions of EMP, and remember all those systems they talk about failing are already today controlled by some level of AI that we only make suggestions to, and they could even more easily be “turned off” because the AIs decide we’re irritating than by an EMP.
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