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1 posted on 04/29/2017 8:18:04 AM PDT by davikkm
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The ANC was a communist organization and Mandela was the head of their terrorist wing. The failure of another communist regime should not be a surprise to anyone.


2 posted on 04/29/2017 8:21:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Communists. They keep trying the same thing over and over again, with the same result every time.


3 posted on 04/29/2017 8:22:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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The two most successful sub Saharan countries were Rhodesia and South Africa. I wonder what the correlation is?...


4 posted on 04/29/2017 8:22:38 AM PDT by EEGator
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The politics of South Africa has become a battlefield. Only last month, after President Jacob Zuma fired yet another Finance Minister, the Rand was declared a “junk currency” and millions took to the streets in protest, demanding that he steps down. A vote for “no-confidence” was called (again), but defeated. And the ruling ANC party still remains in majority control.

The Zuma government is often criticized for its corruption and ties to the billionaire Gupta brothers, who seem to regard African Nations as their own personal playgrounds and resource banks, using, abusing and exploiting at whim (all enabled by Zuma). During the protests, people flew banners saying “End Zupta Now!” (“Zupta” being a mix of Zuma and Gupta).

Hot on the heels of the ANC is the EFF (the Economic Freedom Fighters party), whose main policy could be fairly described as “One Boer, One Bullet”. Basically calling for the execution of all whites and the seizure of their land. They were formed by an ex ANC politician and are now the 3rd largest party. They are a Socialist, Nationalist Group.

It is easy to see South Africa as a failed experiment in multi-culturalism, with 11 different official languages, and many more tribes. A fair few of these groups carry hatred for other groups. It is a wonderful place filled with wonderful people, but it is sliding into a chaos that was never envisioned. Is it perhaps a glimpse into the West’s future where “all cultures are equal, and none is above another”

* The term Coloured refers to an actual recognized race in South Africa. It is people who are (usually) Bantu but with some white ancestry.


8 posted on 04/29/2017 8:25:31 AM PDT by davikkm
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Wow, I just watched an episode of House Hunters International where a Family was relocating to South Africa.

The didn’t mention any of these issues. LOL


9 posted on 04/29/2017 8:25:50 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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“Is South Africa heading for civil war? The country is lurching ever closer to conflict...” ——
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3548510/posts

Direct link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4457280/Is-South-Africa-heading-civil-war.html


10 posted on 04/29/2017 8:26:19 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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I’ve heard that growing numbers of the white minority, especially young people, are emigrating from South Africa. They just don’t see a good future for themselves and their families.


11 posted on 04/29/2017 8:28:20 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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There is a lot that is unspoken in this article. The inequality reflects a massive cultural and IQ gap between races that cannot be bridged in any realistic time-frame. Ideology is not the deep issue. When you take a people with an average IQ of 80 or less and give them power over people they resent because those people are culturally vastly more advanced and far smarter, any ideology that effectively articulates their resentments and envy will do. People like that live in the present and don’t have much ability to conceptualize or understand the long-term consequences of their actions. The inequality reflects a massive cultural and IQ gap between races that cannot be bridged in any realistic time-frame.


13 posted on 04/29/2017 8:31:24 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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There is a lot that is unspoken in this article. The inequality reflects a massive cultural and IQ gap between races that cannot be bridged in any realistic time-frame. Ideology is not the deep issue. When you take a people with an average IQ of 80 or less and give them power over people they resent because those people are culturally vastly more advanced and far smarter, any ideology that effectively articulates their resentments and envy will do. People like that live in the present and don’t have much ability to conceptualize or understand the long-term consequences of their actions. The inequality reflects a massive cultural and IQ gap between races that cannot be bridged in any realistic time-frame.


14 posted on 04/29/2017 8:31:27 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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South Africa has run itself into the ground.
The DeBeers had the corner on the diamond market for a long time.
While it was Rhodesia, it was good money being hired for their security forces.

Now when someone mentions “South Africa”, my response is “So what?”


15 posted on 04/29/2017 8:35:05 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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“Nelson was after all an avowed Communist), they assumed that all people would grow richer and that South Africa’s problems would soon be solved.”

They never put two and two together. Never.

L


16 posted on 04/29/2017 8:36:17 AM PDT by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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We were just in South Africa last year.We chose a suburb of Johannesburg called Sandton as our base and from there we traveled to the game parks.Sandton reminds me of Palos Verdes Estates in LA (where I once got lost)....lots of money and lots of gates.There was a Rolls Royce dealership a few hundred yards from our hotel.

However,OTOH,as we were driving north toward Kruger National Park we passed through townships that were as bad as anything we saw in Kenya or Tanzania.

There does seem to be a huge prosperity gap in the country...the origins of which are entirely unknown to me.

23 posted on 04/29/2017 8:53:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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After the ending of Apartheid, South Africa looked set to become the driving force of the African continent. It had the developed world’s support behind it, popular support from almost everyone, and yet it has sunk to the very bottom of the world’s equality rankings (in terms of economic disparity). And it’s not only economically that South Africa is struggling. Political corruption is rife, violence is high, and the threat of insurrection is never far away.

...

But it allowed liberals to feel good about themselves, which is what really counts.


27 posted on 04/29/2017 9:00:34 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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I remember from the 1960s and 70s that the Congo and almost all African nations were 1 vote away from going Communist and losing all chance for improvement and prosperity (or basic freedom). Too bad the European colonizers just walked away and let that catastrophe unfold.


28 posted on 04/29/2017 9:05:43 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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Sounds like quite a place there...run by our black brothers.


39 posted on 04/29/2017 9:33:30 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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My friend (and her husband) from Pretoria are going to be visiting us here in FL in mid-May on their way to their vacation in Jamaica. I'll do another photoshoot with her while she's here most likely... and also get all the latest scoop on how things are over there. They used to try to be pretty neutral on SA politics, but in the last year have gotten pretty vocal about being anti-Zuma.

http://playboy.co.za/playmates/nikki-du-plessis

44 posted on 04/29/2017 9:55:23 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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...Soweto (now famous as the setting of the movie (District 9), has now become an almost unmanageable sprawl of poor housing spreading into barely stable shacks and lean-tos.

In 1980 we visited with a Black family in Soweto. Their brick home was nicer than the place we rented in Nairobi. The worst housing we saw was on par with the first place we rented in Nairobi. Soweto was clean, neat and orderly. When we visited the city hall, my wife noticed a line of people out back. "What is that queue for?"

"Oh, that is the old folks getting their pension payments."

We were told that 90% of the families had electricity and 90% of those had refrigerators; the rest had "iceboxes". "Where do they get ice?"

"We have an ice plant here in Soweto." Soweto had a VW dealership that was more modern than any in Nairobi. Our hosts told us that the traffic jam heading out of Soweto on workday mornings was a mess.

In downtown Johannesburg, white & blacks worked together, shopped together and dined at restaurants together. It looked like Atlanta... but a bit more modern and at least as clean & neat.

1980

55 posted on 04/29/2017 5:06:18 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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“Equality”, in the sense used here, does not exist and cannot exist.


56 posted on 04/29/2017 5:10:41 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Die Gedanken sind Frei)
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