Posted on 04/12/2017 2:59:12 PM PDT by Sean_Anthony
No. It's not.
Apparently it's now fine for airlines to drag off a passenger if it comes out later he has a criminal record
Here’s a question: Did the media go digging up the guy’s criminal history on its own? Or did the airlines put some oppo researcher on the case and feed it to a friendly reporter? Because that would be one hell of a PR counteroffensive if it turned out the airline’s fingerprints were on it.
Better question: Does it matter? Is a corporation justified in treating a customer like inhuman garbage if it comes out after the fact that the customer had a history of being a bad, bad boy?
Wonder how many times this has happened before without somebody refusing on leaving short of force. Guess it took somebody losing their temper for people to notice. Should we be surprised it was somebody a bit unstable?
Yeah, because more importantly there’s a sale at Penny’s!
And if it was you that was dragged out bleeding?
He's no choirboy, but he's no drug pusher to kids, either.
In any case, his past has been adjudicated and has nothing to do with United's mistreatment.
I’m not a third world immigrant who is a drug pusher. And I would leave in a civil manner. I’ve had my own troubles with airlines and never had to be tazed.
United picked the wrong guy to bump and now they'll have to pay a lot more than they would if they'd been able to increase the compensation for finding volunteers. United takes all the blame when much of the blame belongs with government.
No. But the man said no and the directions were - get off. He did not and ended up in trouble.
Or maybe his law breaking flaming personality was a factor in why the employees had to call the police.
It is very simple, and the above article and public high dudgeon against UAL are all ridiculous.
The airline has the right, for any nondiscriminatory purpose, to remove any pax from an a/c. at any time the door is open. You may not like it, and there are rules for compensation, but that is the law, the filed tariffs and the Contract of Carriage.
The passenger refused the flight attendant’s repeated requests then legal demands over a 12 minute period that he leave the aircraft. He was then in violation of 49 U.S. Code § 46504
United then called law enforcement to remove him, as required by law. Chicago LEO’s asked/told him on multiple occasions that he had to leave a/c. That’s when he began his false cries that he had to be in surgery the next morning.
They then ordered him to leave one more time. LEOs then told him he was under arrest for repeated vio of 49 U.S. Code § 46504 and Illinois law (Failure to Obey...) and he would have to leave with them.
He refused to comply and passively then violently resisted that lawful arrest.
LEOs then had to extract him from his seat and he fought them.
Then the video started.
The entire violence was caused by an arrested man resisting that arrest and removal from the a/c. Did Chicago LEO’s overreact? Possibly, but the blame is not UAL’s. It started when the pax refused multiple lawful orders, resisted arrest, and what happened subsequently was his fault.
A parallel example. You are stopped for 40 in a 30. When running your license, the LEO gets a hit saying you have an open warrant from Spokane, Washington. He announces he is going to arrest you and take you to jail for that.
His information is wrong, and you know it, because you have never been within 500 miles of the State of Washington.
Regardless, you must submit to the arrest or face the physical and legal consequences for not doing do. You later have good grounds for a civil suit, but that is for arguing later, not on the street, on in airline seat.
I haven't seen it reported that he pushed them to kids. That's the kind of thing you better be sure about before making such a claim. What is your source?
Another thing. The doctor who got beat up may not be the same doctor who pushed pills. See Post #12 and Post #101
There seems to be two people with almost the same last name who the MSMLSD may have attributed to the wrong guy ala Aurora movie shooting. More seems to be coming.
1. United should have determined the overbooking before anyone boarded.
2. The man should not have acted like a spoiled 2 year old. When security asked him to leave, he should have walked off the plane. Be angry, throw your SkyMall, whatever. Just leave.
3. If a crew member had tried to reason for the man for, say, an hour, how long before the other passengers scream “DRAG HIM OFF!”
4. The man is also a tournament poker player, he should know that sometimes you are dealt a bad beat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn0WdJx-Wkw
“They bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into...”
Has the most important question about him been answered? Did he vote for Donald Trump?
Source: Above the Law
But the thing going on with Dao might be different because it seems likely that the alt-right latched onto the criminal record of the wrong David Dao. From the Independent:There is presently confusion about whether the man on the United flight was actually David Thanh Duc Dao, quite possibly another person entirely to David Anh Duy Dao, the man with the criminal records.Likely, the confusion just leads back to some dumbass internet jockeys. But would you entirely put it past United to have leaked out some of this information, given how awful their initial reaction to the situation was?If Dao sues — when he sues — the only good move for United would be to give Dao whatever he wants, as quickly and quietly as possible. They want to take “full responsibility.” They want to “make it right,” then pay the man.
He surely did and it will probably be in the millions. Beats that $400.00 bucks and a hotel room.
There may be worse than UA but its the worse I ever flied, once.
Its been leading a race to the bottom for over a decade,
Screw them!
Except its not in the rules. Perhaps you should read them.
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21
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