What would those three guns be? Jerry Miculek had a chance to voice his response on the subject. Posted on 03/28/2017 7:48:50 AM PDT by w1n1
What would those three guns be? Jerry Miculek had a chance to voice his response on the subject.
Wait, before we get to the guns, just to clarify that we’re talking about having these three guns for survival.
Some folks have talked about the .357 revolver as a primary SHTF in many internet forums and this has stirred up the hornet’s nest. Mainly due to the age demographics, for instances, folks that are from the older generation would agree with the .357 revolver. Where the younger millennium generation will stick with the striker based handguns like the Glocks in 9mm.
Don’t think so?, someone had asked this question to shootist extraordinaire Jerry Miculek and even he went with an 8-shot .357 wheelgun–specifically a Smith & Wesson 627–as his one handgun for every situation. Take a look here.
I agree with the Remington 700, if we could go with four instead of three.
In a semi-auto, I’d definitely go with a Glock 19. However, if I had to only have one handgun, I’d go with the .357 mag because of the variety of ammo it can take.
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Point taken
50 bmg rounds cost $3.50 -$5.50 EACH
338 Lapua are almost the same.
300 Win mags/ 7mm mags 1000-1500 yds. depending on the load. $1.00 -$1.50 per round, unless hand loading.
Barrett 50 bmg costs $3500-$7500 depending on model. Remington 700 in 300 win mag or 7mm mag, $750-$1000.
50 bmg is one HEAVY gun.
23-33 pounds, sans scope and ammo.
About 4 oz per round. 100 rounds = 25 pounds
Add on optics.
Going to be expensive for those handling the punch that a 50 or 338 gives and the ranges they reach.
Lastly...the gun is only as good as the shooter.
Whether the gun can reach out 1000-2500 yds, doesn't mean the shooter can.
Most people will never go beyond 400 yds or even 600 out west.
600 yds is someone experienced.
Unless someone is experienced and very good with a gun, a gun in 308/30.06 is more than adequate, and the rounds are cheap, especially when hand loading.
And a .38 special.
Opinions about brands and caliber preferences on this question lead straight into the weeds. Cutting through the clatter, I’d just opine that, for basic survival, one should have:
1. A rifle capable of knocking down large game or predators, with accuracy, and at distances up to several hundred yards.
2. A pistol for up close and personal protection, which is capable of knocking down most large mammals.
3. A shotgun for hunting, and defense against multiple attackers/predators.
Survival or SHTF survival. Those are two different things. If regular “survival in the wilderness” it would be a .22, 12 gauge and .45. For SHTF, .22, 12 gauge and an AR-15.
You make valid points. My thinking was that, in a survival situation, I’d want to have a couple of reasonable weapons for primary use and back them up with a monster, just in case it’s needed.
In the first 88 posts:
8 votes for the AK
13 votes for the 1911
13 votes for an AR
15 for the .357
21 for a 12 gauge
28 for the .22LR (with a lot of specific preferences)
There are also a few Glocks, a few bolt rifles, and a few other choices, but most of the picks are listed above.
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One firearm that didn’t get enough mention is the Henry Survival Rifle, which is perfect for members of the FR Boating Club. It floats!
Great Gun, I would add that one to my larger/longer list! Anything by Henry is just fine!!!
I’m with you on this. In reality, what good is a handgun in a true survival situation?
“Survival” is key here.
Since the limit is three(3) firearms, this calls for careful consideration:
1. A 22lr rifle is needed for small game harvesting while preserving meat. Is low report will also permit better sound security. An improvised suppressor can be constructed.
2. In stead of a HG for CQB, an accurate carbine (AR15) chambered in a superior cartridge is a much more flexible choice. This can be carried as a sidearm, but it will handle threats out to 300 yards.
3. Beyond 300 yards an accurate, scoped rifle in a commonly available cartridge (308Win) addresses operational requirements not handled by choise 1 and 2. This rifle will take any game on the NA continent while permitting the engagement of threats out to 800 yards.
Each cartridge serves a special purpose which are key for survival.
“For survival” can mean many things.
A .22 rifle would be on any list.
Survival (Food / Defense) .... ?
Suppressed 10-22
Suppressed Ruger Mk 1
Suppressed AR-15
I’m with you flier...., In the weeds,. Seriously since I didn’t see a specific SHTF; civil unrest or wilderness survival. If civil, for me I’ve got a custom bolt action pistol that is as quiet as it comes, for something that in my hands will get the job done out past what a bumper jack can reach. My wheel gun, though in my hands (Mecklek is beyond fast) not as fast as some, will keep the jackals from rushing me until I get my 590 in play. For survival would only need one, though would carry two. I reload so it didn’t matter how long it lasts, either way I’m in play until something else happens supplies isn’t what I’ll run out of first,. Targets perhaps.... Anything I don’t have either would be laying around or I won’t need.
Some old shooters will tell you that the best gun for a given situation is the one closest to you.
I think there’s a lot of wisdom in that.
Who wants to lug around 3 guns in a survival situation, let alone a heavy 12ga. A versatile 5.56 is probably all you want.
And, of course, an M2 .50 in or on top of the commander's cupe or on a Chrysler gun mount. Not an M85, though the gun's okay, but the ammo any grunts or wheelies have along will be more likely to be canned up in links for the M2. About a thousand rounds inside, and about double that outside in the bustle rack should do, 30 or 35-cans worth in all. If I've got a qualified commander, that's fine; if not, I can shoot from the TCs position. I've got an okay driver, and breaking in a new loader isn't much of a chore. On the way!
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