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Disclaimer: My speculation only. Ran into this: Marco Rubio's unprecedented plan to stop Donald Trump: Keep his delegates

From the article: "In an unprecedented move, Marco Rubio has asked party leaders of 21 states and territories not to release the 172 delegates the Republican won during his now-defunct presidential campaign."

So, is Manafort talking with Rubio about VP?

1 posted on 04/10/2016 10:52:57 AM PDT by Art in Idaho
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To: Art in Idaho

Wisconsin was Rafael’s heyday.


2 posted on 04/10/2016 10:54:57 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: Art in Idaho

without 1237, I can’t imagine trump would go into Cleveland without a deal, too risky otherwise......


3 posted on 04/10/2016 10:56:29 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: Art in Idaho

I think you’re the first to post an article about the “172 Plan” ;-)


4 posted on 04/10/2016 10:56:39 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Art in Idaho

What’s a “political punch to the face?”

Who gets to define that?

Maybe it’s actually a “political knee in the groin.”
Or how about a “political kick in the gut.”
Or a “political shot in the head.”

What do any of those mean? Nothing. Nonsense.


5 posted on 04/10/2016 10:57:28 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Art in Idaho

I hope NOT!

I’d actually prefer Ohio in November and its governor with his 143 delegates.


6 posted on 04/10/2016 10:58:52 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: Art in Idaho

I doubt it is Rubio. I would guess someone like McConnell or Dole or some establishment insider. I suspect this is hype that serves to gather media for a less than stellar endorsement, trying to manufacture more excitement than it deserves. Plus it is Bankrupt Trump’s way to gain free media. He does it all the time.


7 posted on 04/10/2016 10:58:56 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Art in Idaho
It would be smart if he was.

Here is the deal though. Why would Rubio do it? Pretty much anyone on the ticket with Trump get's one shot, win or out. Rubio is too young to put it all on the line, unless he were to have the blessings of the GOPe for insurance.

8 posted on 04/10/2016 10:59:15 AM PDT by Religion and Politics
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To: Art in Idaho

172 delegates is the number of delegates that are in play on April 26th.


9 posted on 04/10/2016 10:59:28 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Art in Idaho

I am about a millimeter close to refusing to vote for Trump in November, so his team of punks had better watch themselves. If Trump has something to say, he should have the courage to face Ted one-on-one in a debate and say it.


10 posted on 04/10/2016 11:00:25 AM PDT by alstewartfan (Though we spend our lives in isolation Girdled 'round by the Emerald Sea No fear shall we know. Al S)
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Kind of disgusting for them to make a pro-hitler ad like this.


13 posted on 04/10/2016 11:02:15 AM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: Art in Idaho

Just before Trump punches his supporters in the face with his VP pick.


15 posted on 04/10/2016 11:03:42 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Art in Idaho
Obviously, when there's talk of a '172 plan,' the logical inference is that it has to do with Rubio as he has 172 delegates. It's highly likely that those 172 would be enough to get Trump to 1,237. And it's true that Rubio (1) hasn't endorsed Cruz; and (2) could certainly use the VP gig as he'll be out of work in January 2017.

The problem is that it's hard to imagine Rubio swallowing his pride and accepting an offer from Trump after everything that happened between the two in the weeks leading up to Florida. After all of the 'little Marco' stuff, all the bad blood... Rubio would essentially establish himself as someone with zero self-respect if here were to subordinate himself to Trump. Now, some may argue that Ben Carson set a precedent for this, but (1) Ben Carson is not a politician who necessarily has to concern himself with future viability; and (2) Carson for unknown reasons never seemed to take personally Trump's 'pathological' jabs.
16 posted on 04/10/2016 11:04:22 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Art in Idaho
Obviously, when there's talk of a '172 plan,' the logical inference is that it has to do with Rubio as he has 172 delegates. It's highly likely that those 172 would be enough to get Trump to 1,237. And it's true that Rubio (1) hasn't endorsed Cruz; and (2) could certainly use the VP gig as he'll be out of work in January 2017.

The problem is that it's hard to imagine Rubio swallowing his pride and accepting an offer from Trump after everything that happened between the two in the weeks leading up to Florida. After all of the 'little Marco' stuff, all the bad blood... Rubio would essentially establish himself as someone with zero self-respect if here were to subordinate himself to Trump. Now, some may argue that Ben Carson set a precedent for this, but (1) Ben Carson is not a politician who necessarily has to concern himself with future viability; and (2) Carson for unknown reasons never seemed to take personally Trump's 'pathological' jabs.
17 posted on 04/10/2016 11:04:22 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Art in Idaho

No smirking Republican face deserves it more than Ted. This week, anyway.


18 posted on 04/10/2016 11:05:37 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Art in Idaho
So, is Manafort talking with Rubio about VP?

I don't see what else it could be.
25 posted on 04/10/2016 11:09:56 AM PDT by GLDNGUN
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To: Art in Idaho
As I said I could live with Kasich as VP if he bring the delegates. Trump would have eight years to Make America Great Again then how bad could Kasich screw it up.
31 posted on 04/10/2016 11:12:06 AM PDT by McGruff (Ted has sold his soul to the GOPe)
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To: Art in Idaho

That would be an interesting pairing, to offer the VP slot to Rubio, thus going over the head of the #NeverTrump crowd (and to a large part, the Republican Establishment), and sort of short-circuiting the Cruz strategy.

Playing the bank shots and the combinations on the pool table. Makes one hell of a hustle after pranking around and acting as if a wrist were broken in the early rounds of the match.

Playing the set-up for the long game.


32 posted on 04/10/2016 11:12:24 AM PDT by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: Art in Idaho

How many of these secret plans and secret deals and secret news blasts are we gonna hear about before they actually do anything.

You’re being played


38 posted on 04/10/2016 11:16:08 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Anything to get rid of Cruz. The good thing about Rubio is 8 years under trumps leadership would be a good thing. Rubio was an idiot to trust the GOPe with gang of 8, but that even pales to what Cruz is doing in bed with the GOPe.


40 posted on 04/10/2016 11:16:19 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Art in Idaho

Rubio has 171 according to two sites.


42 posted on 04/10/2016 11:17:31 AM PDT by DannyTN
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